Workout injury ends Big Brown Cup hopes, career.. - Page 7

blackthroatedwind · #**121** 10-13-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Had George Washington not broken down last year, would he have most likely gone back to stud?

No.

RollerDoc · #**122** 10-13-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Seabiscuit? While he was recovering from his bowed tendon, he covered mares at his owner's ranch, then came back and won the Santa Anita H.

In more recent times, one of my favorites Silveyville, winner of the G1 Hollywood Derby at 3 in 1981. For a couple of years in the latter part of his career, he would serve his mares in the spring, then come back to racing in the fall, going back to the farm after a couple of races at Santa Anita in the winter. The last year he ran, when he was 8, he won a G3 in January, then came back in late summer to run third in the Carleton F. Burke (G2) at Oak Tree and 2nd in the Citation H (G3) at Hollywood.

Maybe one day we can add Big Brown to this list

I hope so.

RollerDoc · #**123** 10-13-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No.

How come?

blackthroatedwind · #**124** 10-13-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

How come?

It's my understanding he was infertile. Maybe I'm wrong.

smuthg · #**125** 10-13-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's my understanding he was infertile. Maybe I'm wrong.

I think their are about 5 or 6 foals from GW's rather unproductive stallion efforts...

I guess there is only one filly...

A filly by the late George Washington was born at the Irish National Stud on Monday, one of what is expected to be only a handful of foals for the winner of the 2000 Guineas and the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes.

The foal is out Stefano and Loreto Luciani's Rainbow Quest mare Flawlessly, the dam of a Group Three winner in Ombre Legere and the Grade One-placed Flawly, the dam of Prix du Jockey-Club runner-up Best Name.

Scav · #**126** 10-13-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg

I think their are about 5 or 6 foals from GW's rather unproductive stallion efforts...

I guess there is only one filly...

A filly by the late George Washington was born at the Irish National Stud on Monday, one of what is expected to be only a handful of foals for the winner of the 2000 Guineas and the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes.

The foal is out Stefano and Loreto Luciani's Rainbow Quest mare Flawlessly, the dam of a Group Three winner in Ombre Legere and the Grade One-placed Flawly, the dam of Prix du Jockey-Club runner-up Best Name.

To add on to this, I think she sold at this last sale as a yearling......I remember reading something about her being sold somewhere

Danzig · #**127** 10-13-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

OK so I don't have the guts to start this question as a new thread so I'm hoping someonce can answer but still stays low on the radar in case it is an incredibly stupid one.

Has there ever been a high profile race horse that retired to stud (even briefly), and then came back to legitimately race again?

wasn't fabulous strike retired and found to be sub-fertile?

Danzig · #**128** 10-13-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's my understanding he was infertile. Maybe I'm wrong.

he got a couple mares in foal, but not near enough to warrant keeping him at the shed.

philcski · #**129** 10-13-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

wasn't fabulous strike retired and found to be sub-fertile?

He's a gelding, so no. I think you're thinking of High Limit.

Good article in the Bloodhorse, for once I actually believe Iavarone:
http://bc.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=47528

ELA · #**130** 10-13-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

wasn't fabulous strike retired and found to be sub-fertile?

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Covered already.

Eric

Danzig · #**131** 10-13-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

He's a gelding, so no. I think you're thinking of High Limit.

Good article in the Bloodhorse, for once I actually believe Iavarone:
http://bc.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=47528

no, was thinking of another horse. thought a sprinter was retired last fall and then brought back because of lack of fertility...but i don't remember, lack of sleep probably!

blackthroatedwind · #**132** 10-13-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Good article in the Bloodhorse, for once I actually believe Iavarone:
http://bc.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=47528

Agreed. What's not to believe? Of course he's crushed.

Like him or not, Iavarone is at Belmont to see the IEAH horses run all the time ( and co-owner Paul Pompa comes to see his horses most days as well ). They just lost a once in a lifetime opportunity and had to retire a once in a lifetime horse.

I wish the horse raced in one or two of the Travers, Woodward, or JCGC, and feel they missed an opportunity. I am sorry he went out with a win in a relatively meaningless grass race at Monmouth and now we are left not knowing how he would have performed against at least the very best dirt horse racing now. However, the BC wouldn't have answered that, and frankly even if you weren't a big fan of Big Brown, we should be glad he was around to spruce up what could have been a very disappointing TC season.

Close your eyes and imagine the series without Big Brown, IEAH, or Rick Dutrow.

Linny · #**133** 10-13-2008, 10:25 PM

I am not surprised. In fact, I halfway expected as I walked into Belmont for his "Triple Crown Attempt" that one of those God-Awful feet would fly right off and seriously wound a 63 year old grandma sitting in the reserved grandstand seating near the 1 /16 pole. Obviously, BB never made it that far.

philcski · #**134** 10-13-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Agreed. What's not to believe? Of course he's crushed.

Like him or not, Iavarone is at Belmont to see the IEAH horses run all the time ( and co-owner Paul Pompa comes to see his horses most days as well ). They just lost a once in a lifetime opportunity and had to retire a once in a lifetime horse.

I wish the horse raced in one or two of the Travers, Woodward, or JCGC, and feel they missed an opportunity. I am sorry he went out with a win in a relatively meaningless grass race at Monmouth and now we are left not knowing how he would have performed against at least the very best dirt horse racing now. However, the BC wouldn't have answered that, and frankly even if you weren't a big fan of Big Brown, we should be glad he was around to spruce up what could have been a very disappointing TC season.

Close your eyes and imagine the series without Big Brown, IEAH, or Rick Dutrow.

Well said.

_ed_ · #**135** 10-13-2008, 11:00 PM

I've never been a fan of Big Brown but man that sounds like a nasty injury. Poor horse.

Hickory Hill Hoff · #**136** 10-13-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by _ed_

I've never been a fan of Big Brown but man that sounds like a nasty injury. Poor horse.

From DRF

not pretty

Indian Charlie · #**137** 10-14-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Close your eyes and imagine the series without Big Brown, IEAH, or Rick Dutrow.

Uh, yeah, that would have been ugly, especially as the camera would have been focused on the winner of the derby as they pulled up.

Then again, things might have played out differently.

my miss storm cat · #**138** 10-14-2008, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

no, was thinking of another horse. thought a sprinter was retired last fall and then brought back because of lack of fertility...but i don't remember, lack of sleep probably!

Songster.

Danzig · #**139** 10-14-2008, 07:27 AM

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Songster.

that's the one, thanks.

philcski · #**140** 10-14-2008, 08:04 AM

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Songster.

Ah, yes. Good call!!!