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Old 10-07-2008, 10:10 AM
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I dont know why you feel the need to call names? 1945,48, what is the difference. You called me out for suggesting their was a jewish vote. Which their obviously is. Then you call me out and call me names yet never answer any of the questions. You ignore the fact that our Isreali policy is basically the same regardless of party in charge. the only thing you brought to this discussion was the introduction of the Isreal Lobby and it's conservative eadership but failed to do anything else but call names. Or of course some 1000 page crap that we are supposed to take as fact.
And what have you brought Chuck besides your uneducated views on a topic you have nary a clue. You attempt to regurgitate your party line banter no doubt garnered from Foxnews and Sean Hannity. YOU THINK ISRAEL WAS BORN IN 1945 and our policy hasnt changed since. What choice do i have but to call that statement ignorant?
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:15 AM
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And what have you brought Chuck besides your uneducated views on a topic you have nary a clue. You attempt to regurgitate your party line banter no doubt garnered from Foxnews and Sean Hannity. YOU THINK ISRAEL WAS BORN IN 1945 and our policy hasnt changed since. What choice do i have but to call that statement ignorant?
hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:22 AM
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hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?
Those are base facts. Is that what you are resorting to? You need to stick to debates with the antitrust32's of the world.

Where are your facts wrong?

Policy toward Israel hasnt changed since 1945,er, 1948

This alone shows a complete lack of understanding of US policy toward the region. It was not until the mid 60's that the US policy changed significantly. 1967 to be exact. Our aid to Israel both militarily and economically increased dramatically. These were the formative years of the neo con movement. Nixon years. Between 1967 and 1990, we had all of four years with a democrat in office.
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:35 AM
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Those are base facts. Is that what you are resorting to? You need to stick to debates with the antitrust32's of the world.

Where are your facts wrong?

Policy toward Israel hasnt changed since 1945,er, 1948

This alone shows a complete lack of understanding of US policy toward the region. It was not until the mid 60's that the US policy changed significantly. 1967 to be exact. Our aid to Israel both militarily and economically increased dramatically. These were the formative years of the neo con movement. Nixon years. Between 1967 and 1990, we had all of four years with a democrat in office.
DalaHO, you really kicked his butt in the debate considering the only thing you can call him out on is a three year difference in when the country was formed. Way to go, you should be so proud you are still an idiot!!
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:41 AM
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DalaHO, you really kicked his butt in the debate considering the only thing you can call him out on is a three year difference in when the country was formed. Way to go, you should be so proud you are still an idiot!!
The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.
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The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.
I garnered that you are a typical arrogant liberal who comes with nothing of substance except attacks on other posters who may not agree with your politics or 'values'. You denied the existance of jews as a voting bloc, threw out the 'Isreal lobby' as a bunch of neocons and Republicans and blamed them for everything. Then posted some opinion papers that we are supposed to take as fact and called people names. yeah you suported your position well, so well we dont even know what it is except to blast Republicans and lesbians.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:22 AM
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I garnered that you are a typical arrogant liberal who comes with nothing of substance except attacks on other posters who may not agree with your politics or 'values'. You denied the existance of jews as a voting bloc, threw out the 'Isreal lobby' as a bunch of neocons and Republicans and blamed them for everything. Then posted some opinion papers that we are supposed to take as fact and called people names. yeah you suported your position well, so well we dont even know what it is except to blast Republicans and lesbians.
Yeah, I get called names left and right by both of you and yet i am doing the attacking. Right from the neo con playbook chuck. Well done.

Don't blame your lack of comprehension on a lack of support and explanation from my part. I can't be blamed for your failures or those of your teachers.

You skew the facts and issues laid out becaue you have no clue on the subject and anyone with a brain (that would preclude antitrust32) knows it. I have laid out the facts and support with opinions with people knowledgable on the subject.

When you have time, perhaps you should have someone read you the articles.
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:07 PM
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The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.

ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that??

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.
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ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that??

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.
You leave her alone you LESBO!
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:08 PM
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As Barack would say, settle down, settle down people

I'll find something cheery we can all agree on...
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:09 PM
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The Jewish vote goes overwhelmingly to the Democrats (although not so overwhelmingly this year cause of racism and bitter Hillary supporters). But the Jewish vote is hardly significant. It is 2% of the population.
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ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that??

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.
You called me names first dear. Look back in the thread. Regardless, I dont want to be mean to you. Im sure you are a really nice person. You cant ****in read, but im sure you are a really nice person.
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:31 AM
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hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?

You said that I support the withdraw of US support for Isreal, which is not true. In fact, you put a lot of words into my mouth by making assumptions about my posts that were not true. The only thing i said was our support of Isreal is the main core reason we are hated by the ME.

I dont disagree with your statements above. I just dont feel we need to be so high up Isreals asses like we are. And we can keep some of that money and use it towards that grand ol' U S of A.
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:32 AM
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:36 AM
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:32 AM
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You said that I support the withdraw of US support for Isreal, which is not true. In fact, you put a lot of words into my mouth by making assumptions about my posts that were not true. The only thing i said was our support of Isreal is the main core reason we are hated by the ME.

I dont disagree with your statements above. I just dont feel we need to be so high up Isreals asses like we are. And we can keep some of that money and use it towards that grand ol' U S of A.
Would not a big cut in economic aid be regarded as a lack of support?
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