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Old 10-06-2008, 10:39 PM
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Don't care for the call with that batter. He is kind of a woman(to be honest.) With Rafael Furcal, I might do it.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:41 PM
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Don't care for the call with that batter. He is kind of a woman(to be honest.)
With any batter, it's moronic. If it works, you get in the run that you were probably going to get in anyway. If it doesn't work, you kill your chances to score, and completely reverse all of the momentum that you garnered with the two-out rally in the top of the 8th, the 1-2-3 inning by Shields in the bottom, and the leadoff double by a .213 hitter in the ninth.

It's unfathomable.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:53 PM
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With any batter, it's moronic. If it works, you get in the run that you were probably going to get in anyway. If it doesn't work, you kill your chances to score, and completely reverse all of the momentum that you garnered with the two-out rally in the top of the 8th, the 1-2-3 inning by Shields in the bottom, and the leadoff double by a .213 hitter in the ninth.

It's unfathomable.
Yea, I wouldn't try it against Manny Del Carmen. A flyball can be had against him. Even if you can't get the flyball, you still got one more chance to get a single with 2 outs. To be honest, I thought all they had to do was bring in Popabun in the 8th, and it would of been over. Hell, he didn't ever bring him in. As a manager, if you call that suicide squeeze, you better damn sure be confident the particular pitcher is gunna throw the batter something he can get the bat on. Scioscia did his part in that regard. So, I put most of the blame on Aybar for being a woman. He has to foul it off( in the least.) I would of brought in KROD to face Kotsay n' Bay.

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Old 10-06-2008, 11:01 PM
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Yea, I wouldn't try it against Manny Del Carmen. A flyball can be had against him. Even if you can't get the flyball, you still got one more chance to get a single with 2 outs. To be honest, I thought all they had to do was bring in Popabun in the 8th, and it would of been over. Hell, he didn't ever bring him in. As a manager, if you call that suicide squeeze, you better damn sure be confident the particular pitcher is gunna throw the batter something he can get the bat on. Scioscia did his part in that regard. So, I put most of the blame on Aybar for being a woman.
Yeah, I thought Francona was being a little too cautious with the Pap Smear. Back to Scioscia, not only could the fly ball or hit be had, damn near anything but a rocket ground ball would've scored Willits. A high chopper, a slow roller, anything. The risk vs. reward situation was vastly tilted towards risk.

Thing is, Delcarmen was way off on his first two pitches, and he can be wild (69 walks in 180 2/3 career). Now you're sure this guy's gonna throw something down the middle?
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:08 PM
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Yeah, I thought Francona was being a little too cautious with the Pap Smear. Back to Scioscia, not only could the fly ball or hit be had, damn near anything but a rocket ground ball would've scored Willits. A high chopper, a slow roller, anything. The risk vs. reward situation was vastly tilted towards risk.

Thing is, Delcarmen was way off on his first two pitches, and he can be wild (69 walks in 180 2/3 career). Now you're sure this guy's gonna throw something down the middle?
He must know Manny's patterns or something, because he did throw one that he should of done something with. Scioscia did his part(pitch was manageable..he should of executed.) The woman didn't execute. Mike says he's a good bunter. So, he is a woman(choked.) If it was a pitch he couldn't handle, then I would be more critical of the decision. I know what you're saying, but Boston is a very lucky team. I guess he didn't think he was gunna get the flyball.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:09 PM
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He must know Manny's patterns or something, because he did throw one that he should of done something with. Scioscia did his part. The woman didn't execute. Mike says he's a good bunter. So, he is a woman(choked.)
It's an indefensible call. Maybe Aybar should've gotten contact (it was inside), but regardless, the call was indefensible.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:31 PM
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It's an indefensible call. Maybe Aybar should've gotten contact (it was inside), but regardless, the call was indefensible.
They made a ton of execution failures in this series(Aybar failing to atleast foul that pitch off was just one of many.) Even if they get the run, then they probably lose the series (somehow.) They've turned into chokes. I mean look at it, dude. FKN how much they paying Guerrero to get extra-base hits in the playoffs? Are any of them hitting for power in the playoffs? Guerrero, MARK Tawhatever, and Hunter are suppose to hit home runs in the post. Didn't do it. So, go home. You gunna rely on fkn Aybar to win a series? LOL..Come on. There's much more wrong than that one play. They're choking in the post. That guy following Lester threw s-h-i-t tonite, and they had chances to hit some fat pitches. They missed them. Catcher missed a fat pitch with Hunter on 1st. That would of made it 4-2. He missed it. I know he hit well last night, but he happens to be the one that got the fattest pitch all night n' he missed it. They didn't execute. Deserve to go home. They are fkn boring, anyways. They are on my cable for free, but I fall asleep trying to watch them.

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Old 10-07-2008, 12:27 PM
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It's an indefensible call. Maybe Aybar should've gotten contact (it was inside), but regardless, the call was indefensible.

The reason I wouldn't have gone with the suicide squeeze is because the team hadn't been executing well all series. That's the type of play you want to call when your ballclub is going well. I don't like this player's guts, either. That being said, he could reach it. If you can reach it, then you have to atleast touch the top, bottom, or side of that ball. You have to give the guy at 3rd a chance of scoring, or the opportunity to be on 3rd again. If he hits the top or side of it, then it's a foul ball. If he gets the bottom of it, then it's gunna probably be popped up, and who knows if the guy can get back to 3rd in time? Probably not, but that poor execution, combined with the poor execution by Hunter/ Kendrick in game 3, is enough for me to say they were simply too tight. KROD simply hung a pitch to get beat by Drew in Anaheim. That was a very poor change-up. Those are 3 reasons they don't deserve to get to the 2nd round. Francona gave them an opportunity to win this game(he never brought POPABUN into this game.) They had their chances.

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Old 10-06-2008, 11:18 PM
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I love the call myself and want to thank Soscia for taking the goat around Masterson's neck and securing it around his own........The bubbly celebration was a bit much but we'll see what happens with Tampa.
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