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Old 08-22-2006, 10:54 AM
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the best sprinter in the country in Henny Hughes (no, not Songster...) in the King's Bishop, !
SInce when does one race against fellow 3yos (and not the best of the division either) make Henny Hughes the best sprinter in the country? Ever heard of Silver Train or Bordonaro? Until the little boy runs against the big boys (4 and up), he's not entitled to such a title. He might end up being the best, but he's not there yet.
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:08 AM
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SInce when does one race against fellow 3yos (and not the best of the division either) make Henny Hughes the best sprinter in the country? Ever heard of Silver Train or Bordonaro? Until the little boy runs against the big boys (4 and up), he's not entitled to such a title. He might end up being the best, but he's not there yet.
Silver Train is only the best sprinter at Belmont. Anyplace else and he is average at best.

Now as far as coming up with the race where the best can meet--boy that would be good for racing for about all of 2 minutes. This is why I hate the Breeders Cup. Owners and trainers only point to this one day and we are left cold the rest of the year.
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Old 08-22-2006, 12:36 PM
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SInce when does one race against fellow 3yos (and not the best of the division either) make Henny Hughes the best sprinter in the country? Ever heard of Silver Train or Bordonaro? Until the little boy runs against the big boys (4 and up), he's not entitled to such a title. He might end up being the best, but he's not there yet.
Both of you are right. Henny Hughes is the best sprinter in the country. He just has to prove it against older horses before he can officially be declared the best sprinter in the country. Just because he hasn't proven it yet doesn't mean he isn't the best.
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Old 08-22-2006, 12:45 PM
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Both of you are right. Henny Hughes is the best sprinter in the country. He just has to prove it against older horses before he can officially be declared the best sprinter in the country. Just because he hasn't proven it yet doesn't mean he isn't the best.
I certainly can't fault those who think that Henny is the best. Although it was only a 4 horse field at the Shore, he certainly ran like a wild horse.
Thing is, like the sniper just said, he has to go out and do it before he can be annointed.
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Old 08-23-2006, 04:21 PM
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Also, Discreet Cat is back...should jog but this is not the softest group ever assembled...should still cruise and set himself up well for the Jerome..
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Old 08-23-2006, 04:31 PM
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Also, Discreet Cat is back...should jog but this is not the softest group ever assembled...should still cruise and set himself up well for the Jerome..
Rumspringa is a very good horse. Don't be surprised if he wins this race. Discreet Cat picked a tough spot for a return. I think Albertrani and Tagg will both have two winners on the day. Albertrani should win the two big ones. I think Pletcher will beat him on Friday though. Small 5 horse field but Pletcher's girl is the best filly/mare out there in my opinion.
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:17 PM
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Also, Discreet Cat is back...should jog but this is not the softest group ever assembled...should still cruise and set himself up well for the Jerome..
Have you heard anything about how Discreet Cat is training? If the horse is doing alright, he'll win easily. He'll probably go off at 3-5. He's a freak. If he's the same horse he used to be, he could be a factor in the BC Classic.
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:57 PM
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Have you heard anything about how Discreet Cat is training? If the horse is doing alright, he'll win easily. He'll probably go off at 3-5. He's a freak. If he's the same horse he used to be, he could be a factor in the BC Classic.
Remember, he went 1:09 ad change ad got a freakish Beyer fig last year at the Spa in his debut....I just don't see him losing to these horses because he is 5 times the horse of anyone he's in with Friday......Also, he CRUSHED Invasor at UAE earlier this year and some people think that he could be as good as Bernardini or better, which meas there is no way he should lose Friday.....Plus, they wouldn't run him in there if he wasn't doing well....they have been more patient with this colt than any of their horses.

He wins....so does Henny Hughes, Bernardini, Dubai Escapade - ad I still think Balletto wins if she doesn't hang this time and if Fleet Indian doesn't get an easy lead...
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:22 PM
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Have you heard anything about how Discreet Cat is training? If the horse is doing alright, he'll win easily. He'll probably go off at 3-5. He's a freak. If he's the same horse he used to be, he could be a factor in the BC Classic.
I think he answered my question about how he's doing. That was an awesome performance. He is an absolute freak. He and Bernardidni appear to be far superior to any of the older horses on the East coast.

I think the BC Classic is realistic for this horse. It would obviously be better if he had a little more time. He will be a little rushed to be running 1 1/4 miles in 10 weeks from now, but this horse is such a freak that he might be able to do it. In addition to being pressed for time to prepare for the race, 1 1/4 miles may be a little bit longer than he wants to run, being by Forrestry.
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:29 PM
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CAN YOU SAY FREAK?

This was my Derby horse until they didn't enter him...now he is showing that he and Bernardini are truly the best 3-year-olds in the world....wow...that performance almost looked like Bernardini's Preakness.....these horses arr just superior to others...
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:31 PM
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I think he answered my question about how he's doing. That was an awesome performance. He is an absolute freak. He and Bernardidni appear to be far superior to any of the older horses on the East coast.

I think the BC Classic is realistic for this horse. It would obviously be better if he had a little more time. He will be a little rushed to be running 1 1/4 miles in 10 weeks from now, but this horse is such a freak that he might be able to do it. In addition to being pressed for time to prepare for the race, 1 1/4 miles may be a little bit longer than he wants to run, being by Forrestry.
After that preformance the Jerome should be a nice easy prep for him and I would take him very very seriously in the BCC even if he doesn't want 10 furlongs his skill might just take him that far.
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Old 08-23-2006, 04:33 PM
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Both of you are right. Henny Hughes is the best sprinter in the country. He just has to prove it against older horses before he can officially be declared the best sprinter in the country. Just because he hasn't proven it yet doesn't mean he isn't the best.
Yeah, i want to see him run against bordonaro. i would bet bordonaro.
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:51 PM
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Yeah, i want to see him run against bordonaro. i would bet bordonaro.
I will take all the action you want when these two meet....
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