Go Smarty Go?

[Merlinsky]

Bloodhorse.com first brought Go Smarty Go's situation to my attention when they said he became another winner for Smarty Jones but then was vanned off after breaking his maiden. Nobody seems to know what's going on. Whoever does the blogging for BH has jury duty so they won't be dealing with this for a couple days. Does anybody here know what's up?

[mclem0822]

Was Steve say on ATR, that all signs were positive. Hope that means good news.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

Was Steve say on ATR, that all signs were positive. Hope that means good news.

Smarty Jones sadly should be vanned off as a stallion.. perhaps my worst call since voting for George Bush

[The Indomitable DrugS]

It's still early Freddy.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Smarty Jones sadly should be vanned off as a stallion.. perhaps my worst call since voting for George Bush

Huh?
He's had 9 starters, and 4 of them have won the first time out, an absurd percentage! None have tried stakes yet but what else do you want?

He was my all time favorite horse, but I thought he would be a terrible stallion. I'M (happily) being proven wrong.

Originally Posted by philcski

Huh?
He's had 9 starters, and 4 of them have won the first time out, an absurd percentage! None have tried stakes yet but what else do you want?

He was my all time favorite horse, but I thought he would be a terrible stallion. I'M (happily) being proven wrong.

Are you sure about that, not to long ago, like before Lukas/Luzzi popped with that big price Smarty, i remember ppl saying Smarty does not have a winner in NY yet.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by hrfan

Are you sure about that, not to long ago, like before Lukas/Luzzi popped with that big price Smarty, i remember ppl saying Smarty does not have a winner in NY yet.

Yes I'm sure. I use actual published results, not some whispers in the crowd eminated from the lemonade girl at Saratoga.

His only other starter in NY before the big price Lukas/Luzzi was Smarty Marty, who just isn't very good and was in way over her head. So he's 2 for 3 debuting in NY.


Also, who gives a schitt what they sell for at the sales at this point, other than justifying a yet-another ridiculous stud fee? I don't.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by philcski

Yes I'm sure. I use actual published results, not some whispers in the crowd eminated from the lemonade girl at Saratoga.

His only other starter in NY before the big price Lukas/Luzzi was Smarty Marty, who just isn't very good and was in way over her head. So he's 2 for 3 debuting in NY.


Also, who gives a schitt what they sell for at the sales at this point, other than justifying a yet-another ridiculous stud fee? I don't.

The horse was bred to a good book of mares many stakes winners and solid proven producers/ Out of what 125 foals 9 friggin starters WHOA!.. Listen I am a HUGE Smarty Jones fan and have the Litho's that 3 Chimney's sold framed and hanging in my office but to date Smarty has been a lame producer..Friggn Saarland is out producing him

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by philcski

Yes I'm sure. I use actual published results, not some whispers in the crowd eminated from the lemonade girl at Saratoga.

His only other starter in NY before the big price Lukas/Luzzi was Smarty Marty, who just isn't very good and was in way over her head. So he's 2 for 3 debuting in NY.


Also, who gives a schitt what they sell for at the sales at this point, other than justifying a yet-another ridiculous stud fee? I don't.

Maybe he'll start going southern hemisphere and rocking them down under

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by philcski

Huh?
He's had 9 starters, and 4 of them have won the first time out, an absurd percentage! None have tried stakes yet but what else do you want?

He was my all time favorite horse, but I thought he would be a terrible stallion. I'M (happily) being proven wrong.

His offspring just aren't selling for top dollar is the thing. His stud fee is likely to decline considerably unless that changes. Based on everything so far, there is a pretty good chance he ends up up a tremendous flop.
I'm with DrugS on this one though, I think you have to give it a bit more time. For one thing, look at Smarty's pedigree. Smarty is by Elusive Quality who did his best running at age 5. He is out of a Smile mare, and Smile did his best running at age 4. Elusive Quality's top offspring (other than Smarty obviously) is probably Maryfield, and she was at her best at age 6. The point is, it seems like Smarty comes from something of a late developing family. It seems at least possible, therefore, that while he might not sire the flashiest yearlings or the stoutest 2yos, he might end up being a decent sire of 3yo+ racehorses. It is hard to judge these things when his progeny have been only racing for a couple of months and they are all 2yos.
His sales #s aren't great, and his at the track numbers are too few to be meaningful. It is just a lot of pretty meaningless guesswork at this point.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm not trying to be anal, but wasn't Elusive Quality a brilliantly fast 3 year old? I know when he got to the turf he really put it all together, but I'm pretty sure he was flashy at 3.

He lost by a nose to honour and glory in the kings bishop after running 6f in 108 and 4/5 and i think there was an allowance race ( loss at belmont) where he set the fractions and got caught at the wire.

Yeah...he was fast. That loss in the KB had to be heartbreaking because he was clear with like 100 yards to go before H and G caught him at the wire.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

He lost by a nose to honour and glory in the kings bishop after running 6f in 108 and 4/5 and i think there was an allowance race ( loss at belmont) where he set the fractions and got caught at the wire.

Yeah...he was fast. That loss in the KB had to be heartbreaking because he was clear with like 100 yards to go before H and G caught him at the wire.

If memory serves me right, Honour and Glory was ten tons the best that day and got a terrible ride by Santos. I'll have to go check Youtube.

But, you're right, Elusive Quality was pretty good on the dirt. His big turf wins were aided by extremely hard turf at Belmont.

[Merlinsky]

I skimmed the thread and didn't see this but if it was mentioned, sorry. Turns out Go Smarty Go fractured a cannon bone and will be on the shelf til next year. The trainer's optimistic that he'll be something nice in 2009.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm not trying to be anal, but wasn't Elusive Quality a brilliantly fast 3 year old? I know when he got to the turf he really put it all together, but I'm pretty sure he was flashy at 3.

Yeah you're right. I actually forgot about him in the KingBish that year. For some reason, I only really remember him on the Belmont turf in '98.

And while we are in the business of deconstructing the theroy I was trumpeting earlier, we could mention that Smile was a multiple-stakes winner at age 2. So basically, I might just be completely wrong.