"The fundamentals of our economy are strong"

[Antitrust32]

How about Mr. Bidens dumbass comment today.

"Wealthy Americans MUST pay more taxes to show patriotism"

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...ow-patriotism/

That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard!

"YOu have worked SO hard, had a great education, made yourself successful, so I'm (dem) going to steal more money from you and tell you that you are unpatriotic to want to not pay more taxes"

Fin idiot.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

How about Mr. Bidens dumbass comment today.

"Wealthy Americans MUST pay more taxes to show patriotism"

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...ow-patriotism/

That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard!

"YOu have worked SO hard, had a great education, made yourself successful, so I'm (dem) going to steal more money from you and tell you that you are unpatriotic to want to not pay more taxes"

Fin idiot.

I like how you put in all caps the one word that he never said. Come on Lori, that isn't what he said, and considering he'll be one of those people paying more taxes he's hardly being hypocritical.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

How about Mr. Bidens dumbass comment today.

"Wealthy Americans MUST pay more taxes to show patriotism"

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...ow-patriotism/

That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard!

"YOu have worked SO hard, had a great education, made yourself successful, so I'm (dem) going to steal more money from you and tell you that you are unpatriotic to want to not pay more taxes"

Fin idiot.

It makes sense...you can afford the taxes so why not pay more? You'll still be ahead of everyone else...but you should help out those that aren't successful too.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Ok, I will bite.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

How about Mr. Bidens dumbass comment today.

"Wealthy Americans MUST pay more taxes to show patriotism"

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...ow-patriotism/

That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard!

I think Biden would have been better off to word it by saying 'Wealthy Americans who really want to put their country first will understand and welcome a tax increase.'

McCain's message is that he wants to reform government by putting an end to the "me first, country second" culture in Washington.

The Republican party has transformed into big government borrow and spend - The Democratic party once might have been big government tax and spend - now they are just big government spend.... and are more worried about getting elected than fighting for tax increases to the people and corporations who can most easily afford it.

Any person who seriously puts "country first" and themselves second would demand that spending be cut in a big way and tax rev increased.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

"YOu have worked SO hard, had a great education, made yourself successful, so I'm (dem) going to steal more money from you and tell you that you are unpatriotic to want to not pay more taxes"

Me first, Country second says what?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

How about Mr. Bidens dumbass comment today.

"Wealthy Americans MUST pay more taxes to show patriotism"

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...ow-patriotism/

That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard!

"YOu have worked SO hard, had a great education, made yourself successful, so I'm (dem) going to steal more money from you and tell you that you are unpatriotic to want to not pay more taxes"

Fin idiot.

Under OBAMA'S PLAN, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of American taxpayers — would receive a tax cut. When the Middle Class gets their fair share, I will start worrying about the wealthy. They usually just pay the average guy less(to make up for this tax increase you worry so much about.) Please note the divide between the rich and the other classes is increasing(not decreasing.) They find a way to keep making more, and it's usually by shorting other people. Look at pro sports. They charge the average person more n' more to pay these wealthy people. Tax them more, and they will just keep making the average person pay more. This country is set up for the wealthy, and always will be. I wouldn't worry your pretty lil head so much about them. They still seem to find their way to the horse auctions to spend money. As far as Patriotic goes, they wanted Geedubbya. Let them pay more to support his fiasco in IRAQ. They wanted him in. He spent a bunch of money on Iraq, and bailing out the rich on wallstreet etc. That's their guy spending dat dough. They can pay more to pay for his s-h-i-t. They wanted de-regulation. Hands off big business. Now they bailing out big business. Wealthy people paying taxes that are going for war and to bail out other wealthy people. If you're worried about tax money going to people who need it most, don't worry so much. Republicans in congress will fight him all the way on anything having to do with helping the poor or middle class. Do you consider this bail out s-h-i-t to be patriotic? Geedubbya seems to. Where do you think that money comes from? It's either coming from the wealthy or they just print new money. Nobody else has it to give.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Under OBAMA'S PLAN, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of American taxpayers — would receive a tax cut.

His plan sucks.

The vast majority of Americans don't need a tax cut.... and those making over 50K a year need an increase if anything.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

His plan sucks.

The vast majority of Americans don't need a tax cut.... and those making over 50K a year need an increase if anything.

Won't be able to do s-h-i-t anyways. He would be blocked all the way by Congress. Don't know why people care about this. Ain't like they do it. "PLANs" are usually fkn fairy tales. What he could do is not reduce taxes for the wealthy. That's about as far as he would get.

[Bigsmc]

Watching C-Span now and they are talking about the economy. Thought I'd stay with it for a bit and see what is being done.

(I am paraphrasing these two speeches to illustrate what I heard)
Hillary just talked for 20 minutes plus pointing her finger squarely at the Repubs the whole speech. In the last 30 seconds ending with we Democrats are here to help, but offered nothing specific.

Jon Kyl spoke next for 20 minutes saying it wasn't us. We saw it coming, but the Dems blocked us and wouldn't let us fix it. He lost me late as he was blabbing on, but basically offered nothing just like Hillary.

I'll never get the last 40 minutes of my life back....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Watching C-Span now and they are talking about the economy. Thought I'd stay with it for a bit and see what is being done.

(I am paraphrasing these two speeches to illustrate what I heard)
Hillary just talked for 20 minutes plus pointing her finger squarely at the Repubs the whole speech. In the last 30 seconds ending with we Democrats are here to help, but offered nothing specific.

Jon Kyl spoke next for 20 minutes saying it wasn't us. We saw it coming, but the Dems blocked us and wouldn't let us fix it. He lost me late as he was blabbing on, but basically offered nothing just like Hillary.

I'll never get the last 40 minutes of my life back....

You are watching C span at 4 am? Just caught your eye while searching for Girls Gone Wild infomercials?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Well, here is who they are gunna bail out. Somebody wants to make money off of an ice cream man. He says he wants something nice to live in, but can't afford it at all. Wealthy company wants to make money off anybody with 2 balls or a slit. So, they let him have a 500k loan to buy a house. The company doesn't care that he puts barely anything down etc. They just want that baby bottle(all that interest each month.) Problem is the house is now worth 350k-400k. They don't like that. Instead of taking that hit, Bush is gunna take that loan off their hands. You're gunna pay for it. The same people that claim they want smaller gov't etc. are the ones getting bailed out on loans they made. See the hypocrisy? Same as the war. They claim they want smaller gov't, but want to piss away a ton of money in IRAQ. Atleast the Libertarians are honest about being selfish a-holes. They don't say they want smaller gov't when it's convenient . They really want smaller gov't. These wealthy companies been living the high life on the high interest they've been charging on bad loans. When the price of houses go down, they don't want to take the hit they should have to take. The taxpayer is gunna take that hit. So, don't complain about taxes being too high on the wealthy. They are getting repaid here plenty in this deal. What about the parties, the vacations, the expensive houses paid for off the high interest on the bad loans? All is forgiven for the rich n' powerful. It's o.k. for them to get rich, but when it's time to lose a lil money, they claim bankruptcy n' beg BUSH to bail them out.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are watching C span at 4 am? Just caught your eye while searching for Girls Gone Wild infomercials?

you say that like it's a bad thing

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are watching C span at 4 am? Just caught your eye while searching for Girls Gone Wild infomercials?

In a hotel room, couldn't sleep. I was hoping to learn something. One can always hope....

Haven't seen any GGW infomercials in a while. Is Joe Francis still in jail?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

But what did you think about the comments made by McCain?

Who's that? Did Pallin pick a running mate?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

But what did you think about the comments made by McCain?

McCains comments were directed at the American workers, whom McCain says are the backbone of the economy, and that the American workers are productive and resilient. McCain knows there are huge problems on Wall Street (which if anyone says is GW's fault I think I'd have to put you on Permanent IGGY cause cant let you people dumb me down).

Dala is twisting his words just as ArlJim twisted Obama's "my Muslim faith" words. and how people twisted Obama's Lipstick on Pig reference.

Now what Biden says.. comparing paying more taxes to being patriotic. I cant give an excuse on that its just plain dumb.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

McCains comments were directed at the American workers, whom McCain says are the backbone of the economy, and that the American workers are productive and resilient. McCain knows there are huge problems on Wall Street (which if anyone says is GW's fault I think I'd have to put you on Permanent IGGY cause cant let you people dumb me down).

Dala is twisting his words just as ArlJim twisted Obama's "my Muslim faith" words. and how people twisted Obama's Lipstick on Pig reference.

Now what Biden says.. comparing paying more taxes to being patriotic. I cant give an excuse on that its just plain dumb.

then I must be George f*kin Washington

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

then I must be George f*kin Washington

Or a signer to the DOI!

McCain and Biden's comments were both foolish. I just find Biden's comments the funniest of the two. I'm imagining Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Hulk Hogan on the campaign trail getting the crowd fired up for higher taxes for the rich. Now that is funny and believable.

[Mike]

And, McCain's Spain gaffe ? Is he getting feeble minded?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Mike

And, McCain's Spain gaffe ? Is he getting feeble minded?

Getting? For all the things McCain is (many of which are admirable), intelligent is not one of them.

[Antitrust32]

"There's tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and on Wall Street," McCain said. "People are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think still, the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult times."

That is what John McCain said... if you go back to my previous post about what he meant by "fundamentals of our economy", how is he wrong?