Iavarone afraid ?

[Rudeboyelvis]

This is probably pretty obvious, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that he represents an organization that feels (rightfully so) that they have absolutely nothing to gain an everything to lose. What if, hypothetically, he freaks and beats Curlin? Does anyone really think BB is better??!! Not hardly. Of course if he loses, he'll be relegated to "tallest pygmy" status in a year that was exceptionally light in talent, thus negatively impacting his initial fee. It's a lose - lose for IEAH.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

This is probably pretty obvious, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that he represents an organization that feels (rightfully so) that they have absolutely nothing to gain an everything to lose. What if, hypothetically, he freaks and beats Curlin? Does anyone really think BB is better??!! Not hardly. Of course if he loses, he'll be relegated to "tallest pygmy" status in a year that was exceptionally light in talent, thus negatively impacting his initial fee. It's a lose - lose for IEAH.

Actually it's the complete opposite. For breeding purposes he has zero to lose. If he loses to Curlin does not effect his fee for breeding. He isnt expected to beat Curlin. But..if he wins the fee will move up substantially. Iavarone is just chickens#it. He has NOTHING to lose by running vs Curlin.

The fact is BB was all out in The Haskell to beat a horse that really isnt any good. Ivarone knows deep down that his horse would get crushed in a dirt race vs Curlin.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Actually it's the complete opposite. For breeding purposes he has zero to lose. If he loses to Curlin does not effect his fee for breeding. He isnt expected to beat Curlin. But..if he wins the fee will move up substantially. Iavarone is just chickens#it. He has NOTHING to lose by running vs Curlin.

The fact is BB was all out in The Haskell to beat a horse that really isnt any good. Ivarone knows deep down that his horse would get crushed in a dirt race vs Curlin.

BB added another G1 to his resume in the Haskell. 5 years from now no one will remember who he beat or how much he beat them by or how crappy the field was, especially if he turns out to be a serviceable stallion. Considering both horses will be entering stud service the same year, and that BB has no chance at beating Curlin, he has nothing to gain by racing Curlin. You call it chickesh!t, it call it managing a business. C'est la vie.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

BB added another G1 to his resume in the Haskell. 5 years from now no one will remember who he beat or how much he beat them by or how crappy the field was, especially if he turns out to be a serviceable stallion. Considering both horses will be entering stud service the same year, and that BB has no chance at beating Curlin, he has nothing to gain by racing Curlin. You call it chickesh!t, it call it managing a business. C'est la vie.

I am sorry.....but going around saying that "We have the best horse...I dont understand why people think Curlin is a good horse....etc" then ducking Curlin is the exact definition of chiceknsh#t. Dutrow and these guys are talking a big game, but are terrified to race Curlin in a real race.

Beating a horse of the quality of Curlin WILL help his value. Not sure why you cant comprehend that. When he goes to the breeding shed yes he will have a bunch of GRade I's...but people in the business will remember that he beat the worst crop of 3 yr olds in decades...if not ever.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

I am sorry.....but going around saying that "We have the best horse...I dont understand why people think Curlin is a good horse....etc" then ducking Curlin is the exact definition of chiceknsh#t. Dutrow and these guys are talking a big game, but are terrified to race Curlin in a real race.

Beating a horse of the quality of Curlin WILL help his value. Not sure why you cant comprehend that. When he goes to the breeding shed yes he will have a bunch of GRade I's...but people in the business will remember that he beat the worst crop of 3 yr olds in decades...if not ever.

Talk is cheap. Why would you take anything these connections say seriously?
Forgone Conclusion. LOL

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by pick4

Talk is cheap. Why would you take anything these connections say seriously?
Forgone Conclusion. LOL

They are full of sh#t. No doubt.


Would just love to see that fat pig Dutrow's excuse when Curlin beats Little Brown by 15 lengths.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

They are full of sh#t. No doubt.


Would just love to see that fat pig Dutrow's excuse when Curlin beats Little Brown by 15 lengths.

Dream on. It's not going to happen.

Why would they run Big Brown against Curlin? He can't beat him and he already has four Grade 1 wins on dirt. So they will run him on turf and synthetic and if he runs big in both of those it will increase his value tremendously.


Bown's next two races are worth millions to the owners. Why would they give it away by trying to beat a horse they know they cannot beat?

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

They are full of sh#t. No doubt.


Would just love to see that fat pig Dutrow's excuse when Curlin beats Little Brown by 15 lengths.

I'll say there's no reason for you to call Dutrow a name like that. Look at what he has accomplish after a rough life. look at his grade 1 wins purse money, etc.. Do you know him personally? If not they statment is out of line.
Sure he is loud big mouth, boastful, however he does back up most of his talk with performances he gets out of his horses. Why is there so much hate for a man that nobody on the website even knows personally.