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![]() This is bigger than Georgia being douche bags.
Check out how Armenia, The Urkraine, etc. feel... just a bit nervous? This is calculated muscle flexing. And the Russians have not yet made any serious signs of moving out. With all the oil they have and all the farmland they still have to import beef..., they cant successfully raise their own with very good pasture land in a number of areas. Their food commodities infrastructure is in horrible shape. So its time for a little fun distraction from internal problems. This is a country that could be very wealthy if they had any sort of real business not bullied or coerced by the government. If you want to be rich in Russia, you dont cross Putin in any way. If he says remove that revealing tidbit from the TV best get it done. Putin would love the old Soviet States returned. Hopefully they move out soon. Point well taken: Dont fool with ethnic Russians in Georgia on the border. Please leave. And WTF are they doing attacking Abkhazia as well ??? nothing was going on there at all... |
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this whole episode was their invasion of grenada. we need better allies. georgia got played. i like the part where the georgian's went in after the russian negotiator said he couldn't meet to discuss the situation in s ossentia because of a flat tire. and his spare was flat too. classic. |
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![]() Big pullout of foreign investors in Russian markets.
They say their military pullout is completed. Which basically means the two areas in dispute are now Russian. This should be interesting. Did Putin intend for some more economic problems to further the sleeper hold he has on his country... or does this make them more likely to negotiate and is just short term... Wacky stuff. |
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![]() If you think that this has anything to do with ethnic cleansing or believe georgia has done something that encouraged the russians to invade you really dont understand that part of the world or dont read the news very well. Putin IS putting the old USSR back together. He has already turned the govt into a puppet govt, has invited western oil investment and research and then seized the russian companies that worked with them, putting the owners in jail and kicking the western companies out. They are spending like crazy on revamping their military and Russia has lots of money not to mention a semi-alliance with Iran. They have been rattling the cages of Georgia over the pipelines for 2 years now. Control over Georgia gives them control over the lifeblood of much of eastern europes energy supplies. They dont have to occupy the entire country to be able to exert extreme pressure. The Russians have already put the nuclear card on the table in regards to Poland installing the US missle defense system. THEY HAVE SAID PUBICALLY THAT THEY WILL USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS ON ANOTHER COUNTRY IF IT DOESNT DO WHAT THEY DESIRE!!! So if you believe that the Georgians are bad people or that the Russians are the good guys or somehow justified in this fight, you just go ahead and believe that.
http://www.jamestown.org/edm/article...cle_id=2372768 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-Georgia.html Last edited by Cannon Shell : 08-22-2008 at 08:18 PM. |
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i think georgians have been poorly served by their leadership. i'm not sure how georgia taking the bait and sending troops into s ossentia (a region where russian troops were serving as peacekeepers under an internationally recognized mandate) isn't "encouraging the russians to invade you". we promised gorbachev we wouldn't expand nato into eastern europe in exchange for soviet acquiescence to german reunification. after that we invite ukraine and georgia to apply. i don't know why anyone is shocked the russians are pissed and swinging a big dick in everyone's face. what's shocking was the lack of any sense of realpolitik in tblisi. |
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All that time playing "the man he could do business with" and Putin is probably just seething having to play GW without any brute force recourse. Throwing the Western Oil companies out is pure stupidity. Venezuela already failed with this trick. Russia's oil production will now deteriorate slowly but surely. This is really a confusing situation. Unless Putin is trying to slash and burn his own country to gain some sort of despotic control. |
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The battle injury this Georgia dude suffered.... ![]() Imagine having to walk around with a bloody Cun+ on your pec. |
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USC has too many athletes and they will man handle Russia if the two ever meet. |
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undigested dinner. Good heavens... |