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Old 08-11-2008, 12:46 PM
ArlJim78 ArlJim78 is offline
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If I heard correctly, the guy that Lezak overtook in the final leg was the worldrecord holder for the 100. so you wouldn't expect that starting off with about a half length or so deficit at the start of the final leg, that the kid would be able to run him down. but he did. watching it live was one of those moments when you get goosebumps because you know you just saw something legendary.

since they broke the world record by like 4 seconds, it would be something like a 130+ beyer performance in horse racing. of course there would be allegations that the track (pool) was souped up because I believe even the fourth place team broke or matched the old world record.
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:54 PM
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If I heard correctly, the guy that Lezak overtook in the final leg was the worldrecord holder for the 100. so you wouldn't expect that starting off with about a half length or so deficit at the start of the final leg, that the kid would be able to run him down. but he did. watching it live was one of those moments when you get goosebumps because you know you just saw something legendary.

since they broke the world record by like 4 seconds, it would be something like a 130+ beyer performance in horse racing. of course there would be allegations that the track (pool) was souped up because I believe even the fourth place team broke or matched the old world record.
Jim there is something about the "drafting" thing like auto racing that apparently allowed him to conserve energy while riding the wave beside Lezak and then he just turned it on the last 25 meters and luckily his head bob out of the pool at the touch didn't cost him.

It was just enough to make a grown man tear up with pride for the kid!!!
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:57 PM
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Jim there is something about the "drafting" thing like auto racing that apparently allowed him to conserve energy while riding the wave beside Lezak and then he just turned it on the last 25 meters and luckily his head bob out of the pool at the touch didn't cost him.

It was just enough to make a grown man tear up with pride for the kid!!!
that and I think just the will to win, to not take silver again, to beat the chumps who said they would smash you. all of those motivations seemed to just propel him along to an other-worldly performance.
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:57 PM
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If I heard correctly, the guy that Lezak overtook in the final leg was the worldrecord holder for the 100. so you wouldn't expect that starting off with about a half length or so deficit at the start of the final leg, that the kid would be able to run him down. but he did. watching it live was one of those moments when you get goosebumps because you know you just saw something legendary.

since they broke the world record by like 4 seconds, it would be something like a 130+ beyer performance in horse racing. of course there would be allegations that the track (pool) was souped up because I believe even the fourth place team broke or matched the old world record.
He was the former world record holder. Eamon Sullivan went 47.24 in the opening leg of the relay..which counts because it's a dead start.

Phelps went 47.51 and broke the American record.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:02 PM
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If I heard correctly, the guy that Lezak overtook in the final leg was the worldrecord holder for the 100. so you wouldn't expect that starting off with about a half length or so deficit at the start of the final leg, that the kid would be able to run him down. but he did. watching it live was one of those moments when you get goosebumps because you know you just saw something legendary.

since they broke the world record by like 4 seconds, it would be something like a 130+ beyer performance in horse racing. of course there would be allegations that the track (pool) was souped up because I believe even the fourth place team broke or matched the old world record.
Chinese did something to that water to get all these records broken. I would love to know the physics behind it.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:05 PM
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Chinese did something to that water to get all these records broken. I would love to know the physics behind it.
for sure, the records are falling in every event.
there actually are ways to speed up the pool.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:12 PM
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It's a combination of things.

The Speedo LZR Racer suit.
Weight training.
Vegetarian diets...quite a few are on one.
Altitude tent/room for sleeping.
revolutionary changes in stroke technique...example: Phelps butterfly, breathes every stroke. This used to be a cardinal sin.
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:16 PM
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It's a combination of things.

The Speedo LZR Racer suit. 90%
Weight training. 2%
Vegetarian diets...quite a few are on one. 2%
Altitude tent/room for sleeping. 3%
revolutionary changes in stroke technique... 3% example: Phelps butterfly, breathes every stroke. This used to be a cardinal sin.

diets and stroke techniques might account for marginal improvements. the reason records are getting smashed is the suit streamlines the swimmers body.

that's the physics, scuds.
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:19 PM
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I could never give up steak.. even for an Olympic gold. There, I said it.
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:38 PM
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diets and stroke techniques might account for marginal improvements. the reason records are getting smashed is the suit streamlines the swimmers body.

that's the physics, scuds.
Now you're just being ridiculous on purpose. Stop it.
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:46 PM
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It's a combination of things.

The Speedo LZR Racer suit. 15%
Weight training. 20%
Vegetarian diets...quite a few are on one. 15%
Altitude tent/room for sleeping. 20%
revolutionary changes in stroke technique...example: Phelps butterfly, breathes every stroke. This used to be a cardinal sin. 30%
I just talked to a friend of mine who was a collegiate all-american and competed in multiple international events what he thought about said comments. Results in red.

The suit is nice and all but getting way too much credit by sports writers who have absolutely no clue about swimming.
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:53 PM
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I dont know enough about swimming but what I do know is my wife, daughter and I were all screaming at the TV pointing at that guy, you ah da man. He won the damn thing and everyone knows.

You watch that... I just cant believe he caught the Frenchman... still.
Said he was tired of losing. Well I guess so cause he looked like a missle almost draggin himself out of the water the last 10 meters.
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Old 08-11-2008, 09:08 PM
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Phelps goes again in just a few minutes for Gold again...
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Old 08-12-2008, 08:47 AM
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I just talked to a friend of mine who was a collegiate all-american and competed in multiple international events what he thought about said comments. Results in red.

The suit is nice and all but getting way too much credit by sports writers who have absolutely no clue about swimming.
Can you explain the 15% being contributed to vegetarians? What is the reasoning behind this creating faster swimmers? Wouldn't a well balanced diet create just as good, if not better, results? Do the non-vegetarians swimmers agree with that 15%?
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:21 PM
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Can you explain the 15% being contributed to vegetarians? What is the reasoning behind this creating faster swimmers? Wouldn't a well balanced diet create just as good, if not better, results? Do the non-vegetarians swimmers agree with that 15%?
Well I should've said an organic diet instead of vegetarian. But a large percentage of international swimmers are vegetarians.

Michael Phelps? He eats everything under the sun. It's amazing how he can eat so much processed foods and stay in such good health. I know for a fact most of his teammates on the national team at Club Wolverine eat clean.

But really it all comes down to the suit. The suit by itself can do a 50 fly in 25 seconds.
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Old 08-11-2008, 02:02 PM
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They probably built the poor a couple inches too short!
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Chinese did something to that water to get all these records broken. I would love to know the physics behind it.
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Old 08-11-2008, 02:48 PM
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USA crushes the Frenchies. That swim by Lezak in the last leg was outstanding. I believe he went 46 flat in his split which is insane. As a former collegiate swimmer I can't imagine anyone going that fast. It was an outstanding race and I am glad I stayed up to watch it.
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