Which horses were truly great?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Well, it's your list but how can you leave off Exterminator? He won 50 of 100 races and more stakes -- 30 -- than any horse before or since.

I'd also put Grey Lag on the list. He won 25 races out of less than 50 starts and won 8 straght stakes race starts. He retired at 5 but came back as a 9 yo to win both his starts that year.

That also means he lost 50 out of 100. I have tough time putting a horse in the upper tier that only won half his starts. Grey Lag was really only great for one year which hurts his case.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That also means he lost 50 out of 100. I have tough time putting a horse in the upper tier that only won half his starts. Grey Lag was really only great for one year which hurts his case.

Really, so what?

Go back and check the weight Exterminator gave away. How much, how often and to what horses.

If all you are looking for are animals who had good records over a couple years, how can you leave off Black Ruby?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

If all you are looking for are animals who had good records over a couple years, how can you leave off Black Ruby?

Talk about brilliantly fast.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Talk about brilliantly fast.

She was one game mule.

[SniperSB23]

Anyone have thoughts on Sysonby? He might be one that belongs on the list especially if he was truly drugged in his only loss.

[Cajungator26]

Can't see how anyone could exclude Silver Charm.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Can't see how anyone could exclude Silver Charm.

Because the title is "Which horses were truly great?" Not "Which horses were truly grey?"

By the way, going to the back booth in orlando tonite if you want to go out!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That also means he lost 50 out of 100. I have tough time putting a horse in the upper tier that only won half his starts. Grey Lag was really only great for one year which hurts his case.

if he was 5 of 10, i could see your point. just remember that no one holds citations losses against him, not with that win streak, and weight carried.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if he was 5 of 10, i could see your point. just remember that no one holds citations losses against him, not with that win streak, and weight carried.

In those 50 wins Exterminator never had a streak longer than 6, and in that streak he only carried more than 126 once.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

In those 50 wins Exterminator never had a streak longer than 6, and in that streak he only carried more than 126 once.

when i said win streak, it was in reference to citation.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

when i said win streak, it was in reference to citation.

I know, I just think if Exterminator truly belonged in that elite class he would have won more than 6 in a row.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I know, I just think if Exterminator truly belonged in that elite class he would have won more than 6 in a row.

why? you include nashua, he never won more than 6 in a row.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why? you include nashua, he never won more than 6 in a row.

But Nashua won more than 2/3 of his races. Had Exterminator had a nice run in his 50 wins and then racked up a bunch of losses late in his career then he'd have a better excuse for his 50 losses. But he didn't.