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Old 08-06-2008, 06:48 AM
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He did not look comfortable.
But he came in 2nd to the BC Turf champ.

They probably have seen enough but I have not.
Curlin is too good on dirt for anyone. Its boring.
Do you think Red Rocks is all that great? Sure he is a BC winner but wasnt he a lot better horse in 06 than he is now?

Another question, would Curlin have caught Commentator had he been in the Whitney? I didnt think so either. And would the pace scenario been that much different? Its not like Curlin has any early speed.

Too good on dirt for anyone? Hes not Cigar or Skip Away. This is a horse who just last summer last to Any Given Saturday convincingly. I think thats a pretty strong statement Pgard.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:02 AM
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Do you think Red Rocks is all that great? Sure he is a BC winner but wasnt he a lot better horse in 06 than he is now?
He was 3 then and 5 now so it isn't really a stretch to believe he is at least the same horse he was two years ago. We really have no clue how good he might be if he had stayed over here the whole time cause some combination of lasix, firm turf, and American style turf racing makes him a far better horse here than he is over in Europe.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:36 AM
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I really wish they would have given it one more shot on the turf. Yeah, he didn't show his best, but there was a chance he could have made a jump in his second on the weeds. The plan is pretty boring for US race fans unless Dutrow and Iavarone get some balls and take a shot.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:51 AM
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People should talk **** to Iavarone when they see him, call him a coward, a chicken, a *****.......If I read the guy correctly, he acts first and thinks second so get under this guys skin and he might just bite (in running Big Brown against Curlin)

I understand that these type of people (calling people out in public) are annoying, but in this case, it would be for a good cause.

When my boy Shane Laviolette was around these parts, verbal confrontations were plentiful
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:39 PM
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Do you think Red Rocks is all that great? Sure he is a BC winner but wasnt he a lot better horse in 06 than he is now?

Another question, would Curlin have caught Commentator had he been in the Whitney? I didnt think so either. And would the pace scenario been that much different? Its not like Curlin has any early speed.

Too good on dirt for anyone? Hes not Cigar or Skip Away. This is a horse who just last summer last to Any Given Saturday convincingly. I think thats a pretty strong statement Pgard.
He is the best on dirt at distance.
All Commentator needs is some speed with him
and he folds. (BTW I love the fact a horse this old is still running at such
an impressive level). Commentator will not meet Curlin.
We really dont know how fast Curlin is.
He runs classic distances with no need to hurry given his stamina.
I know he was damn fast the first race
I ever noticed him.

I just dont think he was bad enough to drop the grass.
Obviously Assmussen knows a lot more than I and they did
not like how he performed enough to go farther with the experiment.
I like experiments.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:52 PM
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He is the best on dirt at distance.
All Commentator needs is some speed with him
and he folds. (BTW I love the fact a horse this old is still running at such
an impressive level). Commentator will not meet Curlin.
We really dont know how fast Curlin is.
He runs classic distances with no need to hurry given his stamina.
I know he was damn fast the first race
I ever noticed him.

I just dont think he was bad enough to drop the grass.
Obviously Assmussen knows a lot more than I and they did
not like how he performed enough to go farther with the experiment.
I like experiments.
he can't get most money earned with second place checks. so back to where he wins...i'd imagine that's why jess jackson says it's not impossible that curlin could race next year-if he's close but not quite to cigars total, he'll run in '09-til he cashes enough checks.
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:48 PM
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he can't get most money earned with second place checks. so back to where he wins...i'd imagine that's why jess jackson says it's not impossible that curlin could race next year-if he's close but not quite to cigars total, he'll run in '09-til he cashes enough checks.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:00 PM
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True.
There are the lists we all must be on top of.
i can imagine some of the lists i'd be on....
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:02 PM
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i can imagine some of the lists i'd be on....
Morton could tell you.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:47 AM
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COMMENTATOR ..should run..with a juiced track and the rail ..he will be tough..
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