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[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Not really sure why the jock was pushing and whipping down the lane. Why not save something in the tank?

Paul

Maybe Saeed Bin Surror told him to try and beat the stakes/track record. It will probably enhance her value if she is known to be a record holder. Just a thought

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Maybe Saeed Bin Surror told him to try and beat the stakes/track record. It will probably enhance her value if she is known to be a record holder. Just a thought

yeah I'm sure Sheikh Mo is looking to sell her....

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

yeah I'm sure Sheikh Mo is looking to sell her....

And I'm sure she was going to run 1:58.

[miraja2]

Who does hold the track record there? Was it Skip Away in the JCGC?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

yeah I'm sure Sheikh Mo is looking to sell her....

I will respectfully offer 1 mil for her maybe even Euro's.. Can someone get Ferguson warmed up in the bull pen.. Do you think he will hold the check a day or two?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I will respectfully offer 1 mil for her maybe even Euro's.. Can someone get Ferguson warmed up in the bull pen.. Do you think he will hold the check a day or two?

maybe if you throw in a falcon and two camels to be named later?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Maybe Saeed Bin Surror told him to try and beat the stakes/track record. It will probably enhance her value if she is known to be a record holder. Just a thought

The whole "saving something" thing is very overrated.

It always gets applauded as though something great is being done for both the future performance and soundness of the horse ... and while I'm sure coincidental - it seems like horses who win like that most often go sharply in the wrong direction from a future performance and health standpoint.

I remember Achilles of Troy winning a stake by about 12 lengths with a dream trip and Alan Garcia was replaced on him because he rode him out through the stretch.

He won easily without Dominguez ever moving on him next time - saving something for his next start where he ran poorly and was vanned off.

The dumbest quote of the year to date was Dutrow after the Preakness blaming Smarty Jones Belmont loss because he was ridden out - and ensuring that Big Brown would be perfect for the Belmont because Kent "saved something." I guess he almost left enough in the tank to hold off the maiden Gaudacanal in the Belmont...almost, but not quite.

Smarty Jones had a subsequent Malibu and Big Cap winner take a strong and absurdly premature inside run at him in the Belmont - and he shrugged that move off and disposed of RHT like he was a 40K claimer - and almost had enough left late to hold off a dream trip subsequent Travers winner.

Officer won each of his first five races all under total Victor Espinoza full nelson holds. When put to pressure in the BC Juvenile and Cal Cup Juvenile - he threw in the towell instantly.

Commentator and Montery Jazz already both ran 119 Beyers this year while "never asked at any point" - would they have run faster if hard ridden? Probably not. Did there "easy wins" translate into quick comebacks?

Montery Jazz is now out for the entire year after his 119 Beyer win where the track announcer said something like "Flores is riding him as though this is the start of a steeplechase"

[pweizer]

But even if all of that is true, what reason is there to whip a horse who has the race in hand?

Paul

[The Indomitable DrugS]

IMO, as long as the horse isn't struggling or isn't empty - it should always be ridden out through the wire and not taught any bad habits.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I remember Achilles of Troy winning a stake by about 12 lengths with a dream trip and Alan Garcia was replaced on him because he rode him out through the stretch.

He won easily without Dominguez ever moving on him next time - saving something for his next start where he ran poorly and was vanned off.

So where were you on the PA forum when it was ME against EVERYBODY else concerning that PLUG?

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

So where were you on the PA forum when it was ME against EVERYBODY else concerning that PLUG?

It wasnt the horses fault that his connections thought he could win the Gotham with a torn suspensory.He was actually a pretty nice colt.