FINALLY: a good match up-- the Virginia Derby

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

The CNL Turf Cup was an oddly run race in my opinion.

It was a soft turf course and the front runner who was 7 lengths ahead of the field was leading in times of :51, 1:18, 1:45 so yet he folds real bad and closers cruise on by. Is this common at CNL?

There is not much speed today and looks to be a firm ground. I am looking for Court Vision to change tactics today and take the lead and TRY to hang on.

Do you remember the '06 Colonial Turf Cup with a headstrong horse by the name of Kip Deville?

That's beside the point though. Who knows how quick those fractions really were considering the ground? And that race was all about who could handle the marsh.. Tactics meant very little, IMO.

On another note, I continue to be surprised that Court Vision backers still exist.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Do you remember the '06 Colonial Turf Cup with a headstrong horse by the name of Kip Deville?

That's beside the point though. Who knows how quick those fractions really were considering the ground? And that race was all about who could handle the marsh.. Tactics meant very little, IMO.

On another note, I continue to be surprised that Court Vision backers still exist.

Not really a backer of his but with MOTT/Desourmeaux and IEAH as his conncections. 10-1 is not a bad shot to play him. His first shot at turf was on soft and now he has firm. why not?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Not really a backer of his but with MOTT/Desourmeaux and IEAH as his conncections. 10-1 is not a bad shot to play him. His first shot at turf was on soft and now he has firm. why not?

He's proven to be slow. What difference does it make who owns/trains/rides a proven slow horse? Are they suddenly going to make him fast after all of this time?

Generally if the best case you can make for a horse is that they're owned, trained or ridden by someone successful, (unless they're a first-time starter) that's probably a good indication that the horse sucks.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's proven to be slow. What difference does it make who owns/trains/rides a proven slow horse? Are they suddenly going to make him fast after all of this time?

Generally if the best case you can make for a horse is that they're owned, trained or ridden by someone successful, (unless they're a first-time starter) that's probably a good indication that the horse sucks.

Connections matter a lot when it comes to big money races. There are reasons why the same people win the big races.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Connections matter a lot when it comes to big money races. There are reasons why the same people win the big races.

Why do they matter so much? What are IEAH/Mott/Desormeaux going to do with Court Vision to suddenly make him fast? It's not as if he just got transferred to Mott. He's had him all along, and the horse is still slow. What difference do the connections make at this point?

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Why do they matter so much? What are IEAH/Mott/Desormeaux going to do with Court Vision to suddenly make him fast? It's not as if he just got transferred to Mott. He's had him all along, and the horse is still slow. What difference do the connections make at this point?

I guess people who bet Frost Giant in the Suburban bet him based on his name

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

I guess people who bet Frost Giant in the Suburban bet him based on his name

Huh??? Nobody bet him. The horse paid $82. Way to answer the question by the way.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's proven to be slow. What difference does it make who owns/trains/rides a proven slow horse? Are they suddenly going to make him fast after all of this time?

Generally if the best case you can make for a horse is that they're owned, trained or ridden by someone successful, (unless they're a first-time starter) that's probably a good indication that the horse sucks.

Court Vision is a chump isnt he??

[docicu3]

Of course he is .......took you 3 minutes to get that up here. Your slowing down.....lol. Did someone we all know and love tell you that Court Vision is a piece of ****?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Court Vision is a chump isnt he??

He's turned into a useful turf horse, so I was wrong about him being hopelessly slow.

Unfortunately, you're still too much of a moron to actually comprehend the point I was originally trying to make, which is that "IEAH/Mott/Desormeaux" is not an angle, especially when a horse is entering its tenth start with those connections.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's turned into a useful turf horse, so I was wrong about him being hopelessly slow.

Unfortunately, you're still too much of a moron to actually comprehend the point I was originally trying to make, which is that "IEAH/Mott/Desormeaux" is not an angle, especially when a horse is entering its tenth start with those connections.

ITM 8 out of 10 is really really bad and 700k in earnings is just chump change. They dont know how to select or train horses.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

ITM 8 out of 10 is really really bad and 700k in earnings is just chump change. They dont know how to select or train horses.

Did they not pay $5 million for him?

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Do you remember the '06 Colonial Turf Cup with a headstrong horse by the name of Kip Deville?

That's beside the point though. Who knows how quick those fractions really were considering the ground? And that race was all about who could handle the marsh.. Tactics meant very little, IMO.

On another note, I continue to be surprised that Court Vision backers still exist.

:

After today we know why

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

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After today we know why

Now I really want Court Vision to win next out. To spite all of you. J/K

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Now I really want Court Vision to win next out. To spite all of you. J/K

Score:
Court Vision - 2 Court Vision doubters - 0

[CSC]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You can always tell the people that aren't right too much. They bring up the ONE time they've been right over and over and over and over again.

You just made the post of the day Hoss.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You can always tell the people that aren't right too much. They bring up the ONE time they've been right over and over and over and over again.

I had to post it.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You can always tell the people that aren't right too much. They bring up the ONE time they've been right over and over and over and over again.

or they keep talking about how great they are on the inner track and how they're playing with house money, etc.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

or they keep talking about how great they are on the inner track and how they're playing with house money, etc.

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[CSC]

Most horses usually have their detractors, Cigar did, even Big red had his...I must have missed the Court Vision bashing here because I truly don't know what this is all about...