Can a consistent long-term profit be acheived in horseracing markets?

[Bobby Fischer]

didn't look as bad 2nd time / may have cut him off but he had some room

888.90

EDIT = THANKS SilverRP

[SilverRP]

[quote=Bobby Fischer]lose 13
bankroll 1221.15[/QUOTE

Not that this really matters, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you lose 16 here?

Sorry, it's on BS page 10.

[Bobby Fischer]

bel r6
$2 ex bx 2-ALL

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

bel r6
$2 ex bx 2-ALL

win return 27.60
bankroll = 892.5

that was a dumb bet!
$24 exacta wheel won me 3.60
$24 to place would have won $18

[sdjcom]

Sounds good, even MIT programs such as this hit short term losing streak and ended up roi profit so low not worth trouble. I will tell you a secret that everybody knows in horse racing how to make a profit, but very few can sit and wait for the chance. It,s a secret yet everyone KNOWS it . in one word
the secret is..... WINDFALL THE ONLY WAY TO STAY AHEAD OF GAME, IS BY HITTING WINDFALLS PAYOFFS, PERIOD. But 99.999 % of horseplayers want to bet tickets not win money. wagering is 75%- handicapping 25%. and you have to be bankrolled .

[blackthroatedwind]

Well, at least Fischer's off the hook.

[sdjcom]

anwser is in thread 215

[hi_im_god]

if i were moving this thread, i'd chose esoteric.

that's just me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

if i were moving this thread, i'd chose esoteric.

that's just me.

I was thinking Myanmar.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I was thinking Myanmar.

The junta won't let foreign aid in when there's a cyclone, what on earth makes you think they'd even for a second entertain the idea of taking this?!

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

The junta won't let foreign aid in when there's a cyclone, what on earth makes you think they'd even for a second entertain the idea of taking this?!

Are you somehow equating this to foreign aid?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Are you somehow equating this to foreign aid?

I can't tell if you're joking.....

[blackthroatedwind]

Is a serious post even allowed in this thread?

[Bobby Fischer]

It's a tough game

this thread hasn't exactly been a display excellence

I will step it up. When I get back to where i was on pages 5-9 without the chicken$*** wager sizes, I will be in good shape.

Doing the exercise has exposed some flaws that aren't as easy to be honest about when you just daydream about "oh i can beat the game anytime"...

I may have to go up to 3k to get my ROI to 1.15

[sdjcom]

You hit what you aim at. I guess i should have said windfall works for me.
Bobby i,m just trying to save you 33 years of frustration, and trial and error. I,m not the best handicapper, i lost for 25 years. I ,ll make it short and simple, i finally realized it's the mathematics. The only true science. I use to know all the angles, trainers jockeys, barns , i could talk the talk but was still a loser. Now these guys on this forum are smart well versed and good handicappers. Are they winners? You would be surprised how many lose consistedly. EXPERT HANDICAPPING CANNOT OVER COME POOR WAGERING, HOWEVER EXPERT WAGERING CAN OVERCOME AVERAGE HANDICAPPING.
That saying is as true today as it was 50 yrs. ago GOOD LUCK IN YOUR HORSE PLAYING.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

You hit what you aim at. I guess i should have said windfall works for me.
Bobby i,m just trying to save you 33 years of frustration, and trial and error. I,m not the best handicapper, i lost for 25 years. I ,ll make it short and simple, i finally realized it's the mathematics. The only true science. I use to know all the angles, trainers jockeys, barns , i could talk the talk but was still a loser. Now these guys on this forum are smart well versed and good handicappers. Are they winners? You would be surprised how many lose consistedly. EXPERT HANDICAPPING CANNOT OVER COME POOR WAGERING, HOWEVER EXPERT WAGERING CAN OVERCOME AVERAGE HANDICAPPING.
That saying is as true today as it was 50 yrs. ago GOOD LUCK IN YOUR HORSE PLAYING.

can you give some examples of your expert wagering? show us how its done.
you don't have to give away all your secrets, just one or two plays in order that we can better understand how you use mathematics to achieve windfalls.

[sdjcom]

Now let me say here, this works for me. There are no handicapping secrets,
just plain common sense. Now we know that the top 2 morning line favorites
win on a national average of 50%. top 3 about 62%. So i put a check mark beside these 3 and forget them. I then handicap the rest of the field and if
there is a horse or horses i like who fits the distance, surface, and and has
some decent past races i bet one or both if 7-1 or higher. Now any race that
does not have 8 runners i don,t even look at. If you get a scratch then there
is still enough runners to make the odds decent. Six runners or less, you are kidding yourself, the favorites in these races have an advantage just on raw averages. You will not be betting on the best looking horse on paper. if you cannot make yourself do this then i,m sorry this will not work for you. remember, you have to beat the take-out, the number players the hunch bettors, so high odds is the way to bet to win. i will get some horses i,m betting today just so you can see. and as always any day can be a skunk day
It's 1pm on 7-19 here is a few win bets i,m making if the odds are 7-1

BELMONT RACE 10 #5 #6 ARLINGTON RACE 10 #3 # 10

[sdjcom]

When you play the races with 8 horses or more the top 3 average falls to about 50%. now you are looking at 50% of races with good odds horses. Some days
all chalk and some a lot of longshots, however it evens out over a few days.

[ArlJim78]

its solid thinking, thanks sdj and good luck on your plays.

[Bobby Fischer]

Del Mar r4

$4 TRIs 15x15x3 , 15x3x15 = $16
$1 exbx 35 = $2