Two Bozos in one week! Helms dead..

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I never mentioned a voting record.

He could have voted on the same side as Ted Kennedy on
a number of bills. This does not tell me as much about the
man as his own statements and actions.

His record is long and there for anyone to see and judge.
I judge him to be intolerant and unpatriotic based on what
this country is supposed to be. This is my opinion, my judgement.
I have my own ideas about this country's central tenets, it may not be exactly like others.

For one little example if you wish, because there are many:
Look up his role in the funding of the Contra rebels and
then look up his views on aide to foreign countries and his
views on the United State's role in dealing with foreign aide.

A huge contradiction, no pun intended.

This has nothing to do with his archaic civil rights views
for which he has made his true fame.

You mentioned his voting record. Here is your quote: "1. Because his 'voting record' and stances indicate intolerance towards democracy and what the United States means in imo."

I'm not sure I understand your point about the Iran/Contra deal. It sounds like you're saying that Helms was generally not big on foreign aid, but he was in favor of funding the Contras. What is wrong with that? It's good if a politician is open-minded and judges each situation on it's own merits as opposed to "always being against foreign aid" no matter what.

In terms of his actions, he had African-Americans in top positions on his staff. Actions speak louder than words. If he was such a racist, why would he have people of color in top positions on his staff?

[Mortimer]

YOU MENTIONED A FUCl<ING VOTING RECORD YA COKE SOCARE!!!

[Mortimer]

goddammitty,phil!

You Lied

Originally Posted by Mortimer

goddammitty,phil!

You Lied

I messed up. Not the first time. Nor the last.

I have done it more than a few times on this very
board but you never used the bold type, you
never even noticed.

I bow before the board and ask forgiveness.
(especially since I may have made Morton orga sm)

His voting record is very conservative, but
other items tell me a lot more.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I messed up. Not the first time. Nor the last.

I have done it more than a few times on this very
board but you never used the bold type, you
never even noticed.

I bow before the board and ask forgiveness.
(especially since I may have made Morton orga sm)

His voting record is very conservative, but
other items tell me a lot more.

I still want to know why he would have hired African-Americans and put them in top positions on his staff if he truly hated black people. You said that he was not politically correct. So if he wasn't politically correct, then why would he have had people of color in top positions on his staff if he had a strong dislike of people of color?

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I still want to know why he would have hired African-Americans and put them in top positions on his staff if he truly hated black people. You said that he was not politically correct. So if he wasn't politically correct, then why would he have had people of color in top positions on his staff if he had a strong dislike of people of color?

Have you ever worked with someone who was highly competent
that you disliked? I have.

Rupert are you trying to work a Limbaugh?
I can play that game if I can remember what I have typed.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Have you ever worked with someone who was highly competent
that you disliked? I have.

Rupert are you trying to work a Limbaugh?
I can play that game if I can remember what I have typed.

Trying to work a Limbaugh? How so?

[Mortimer]

aaaaand..





..there Are Strange Creatures Swinging From You Personal Family Tree!

[Mortimer]

OK guys...touch gloves and continue beating each other with stupid putty.





I'm due in make up in 2 minutes.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

aaaaand..





..there Are Strange Creatures Swinging From You Personal Family Tree!

thats what happens when part of that trees roots are from WVa

I'm out of stick deodorant.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You mentioned his voting record. Here is your quote: "1. Because his 'voting record' and stances indicate intolerance towards democracy and what the United States means in imo."

I'm not sure I understand your point about the Iran/Contra deal. It sounds like you're saying that Helms was generally not big on foreign aid, but he was in favor of funding the Contras. What is wrong with that? It's good if a politician is open-minded and judges each situation on it's own merits as opposed to "always being against foreign aid" no matter what.

In terms of his actions, he had African-Americans in top positions on his staff. Actions speak louder than words.

Oops my bad.

The Contra's were not supposed to be funded by law.
So not only does he not believe in funding, he goes against
the law.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

In terms of his actions, he had African-Americans in top positions on his staff. Actions speak louder than words. If he was such a racist, why would he have people of color in top positions on his staff?

Now I am pretty sure I did not mention anything about
African Americans. I did mention the Civil Rights, but let
Morton check to see if I lied.

Maybe he had African Americans on his staff to boss them
around, how the heck would I know... I am sure a lot of
racists work with and hire people that are competent. How does
this deliver them from having racists ideas?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Now I am pretty sure I did not mention anything about
African Americans. I did mention the Civil Rights, but let
Morton check to see if I lied.

Maybe he had African Americans on his staff to boss them
around, how the heck would I know... I am sure a lot of
racists work with and hire people that are competent. How does
this deliver them from having racists ideas?

If I was a betting man, I would bet that a true racist would not hire African Americans and put them in top positions on his staff. That seems very unlikely to me. It's possible but it is unlikely.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If I was a betting man, I would bet that a true racist would not hire African Americans and put them in top positions on his staff. That seems very unlikely to me. It's possible but it is unlikely.

black people...staff.

just so long as they know their position.

[hi_im_god]

i'm sure he wasn't one of those uppity types.

know what i mean?

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If I was a betting man, I would bet that a true racist would not hire African Americans and put them in top positions on his staff. That seems very unlikely to me. It's possible but it is unlikely.

Would he want them to marry his daughter?
Did he consider them his equal?
Would he want his daughter to have offspring with them and become a part of the family?
Would he ask them to join his Country Club?

A yes answer is possible to the above, but highly unlikely based on what I have read.
BTW I did not bring up the racist thing.

but since we are intent on going there...

Originally Posted by pgardn

Would he want them to marry his daughter?
Did he consider them his equal?
Would he want his daughter to have offspring with them and become a part of the family?
Would he ask them to join his Country Club?

A yes answer is possible to the above, but highly unlikely based on what I have read.
BTW I did not bring up the racist thing.

but since we are intent on going there...

Some weird logic right there.

What if the black office worker has a few autistic family members? Would it still be racist to not want your daughter to marry a guy from a tard family?

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Some weird logic right there.

Then read my post before this.