Harlem Rocker Not In Dywer?

[eajinabi]

I see this horse having a quiet 3 yo season then watch out for his 4 yo season cause he is going to be leader of the handicap divison next year

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

I see this horse having a quiet 3 yo season then watch out for his 4 yo season cause he is going to be leader of the handicap divison next year

Yeah, and I've got Behindatthebar penciled in as next year's champion sprinter.

Hasn't Harlem Rocker made too much noise already media-wise (without much to back it up) to have a quiet 3yo season? If Pletcher can't get him out of the barn and winning this summer he's an almost total write-off next year save for a flashy allowance comeback in Florida followed by a odds-on loss in the Westchester or Salvator Mile.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Yeah, and I've got Behindatthebar penciled in as next year's champion sprinter.

Hasn't Harlem Rocker made too much noise already media-wise (without much to back it up) to have a quiet 3yo season? If Pletcher can't get him out of the barn and winning this summer he's an almost total write-off next year save for a flashy allowance comeback in Florida followed by a odds-on loss in the Westchester or Salvator Mile.

Relax. HR has raced 4 times only. Can we pencil him a failure with 4 races behind him?? He has won 3 out 4 mind you. He will put him in easy spots this year to give him some foundation then we will see his true starting early next yr,

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Relax. HR has raced 4 times only. Can we pencil him a failure with 4 races behind him?? He has won 3 out 4 mind you. He will put him in easy spots this year to give him some foundation then we will see his true starting early next yr,

he gets a lot of hype for NOTHING

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

he gets a lot of hype for NOTHING

you or Harlem Rocker?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

you or Harlem Rocker?

I GET NO HYPE,
but really what has he done ?
he beat a sprinter, a good sprinter, but one that does not want to stretch out.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

I GET NO HYPE,
but really what has he done ?
he beat a sprinter, a good sprinter, but one that does not want to stretch out.

He ran a good race against a horse that came back and validated that race and then flopped on the polycrap in a completely meaningless race. Had he gone in the Dwyer now he'd romp by 10. Instead he might win or lose in Fort Erie and no one will care.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Relax. HR has raced 4 times only. Can we pencil him a failure with 4 races behind him?? He has won 3 out 4 mind you.

I'm just in the initial stages of a valium addiction so excuse me if my posts are the internet equivalent of hair-pulling and other forms of self-mutilation. That aside, can we make a few educated assumptions as to why a Todd Pletcher 3yo, with a lot of hype and potential, only has 4 races behind him? See the career of Half Ours or Forest Danger for further details.

He will put him in easy spots this year to give him some foundation then we will see his true starting early next yr,

Yes, that has been the Pletcher way for decades now,...

Aside from the ill-fated, and very inconsistent Left Bank and Lawyer Ron, who we all know was not in his care at 2 or 3 years, what top older horses has Pletcher campaigned?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'm just in the initial stages of a valium addiction so excuse me if my posts are the internet equivalent of hair-pulling and other forms of self-mutilation. That aside, can we make a few educated assumptions as to why a Todd Pletcher 3yo, with a lot of hype and potential, only has 4 races behind him? See the career of Half Ours or Forest Danger for further details.



Yes, that has been the Pletcher way for decades now,...

Aside from the ill-fated, and very inconsistent Left Bank and Lawyer Ron, who we all know was not in his care at 2 or 3 years, what top older horses has Pletcher campaigned?

Balto Star, speightstown, ashado, english channel

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Balto Star, speightstown, ashado, english channel

You forgot to mention A.P. Arrow.

[CSC]

Honey Ryder, Go Deputy

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

You forgot to mention A.P. Arrow.

Its sad when you can mention that name and have it be fact. AP Arrow is a top older horse.

In fairness to Rolo, I know he meant handicap dirt route horses but didnt specify. And to that point, i have no answer.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'm just in the initial stages of a valium addiction so excuse me if my posts are the internet equivalent of hair-pulling and other forms of self-mutilation. That aside, can we make a few educated assumptions as to why a Todd Pletcher 3yo, with a lot of hype and potential, only has 4 races behind him? See the career of Half Ours or Forest Danger for further details.



Yes, that has been the Pletcher way for decades now,...

Aside from the ill-fated, and very inconsistent Left Bank and Lawyer Ron, who we all know was not in his care at 2 or 3 years, what top older horses has Pletcher campaigned?

True, I agree about Pletcher's older horses. Thats why in previous threads I had mentioned that this horse will probably benefit from a trainer switch like Mandella, Frankel. He is owned by Stronach so he may switch to Frankel or Brian Lynch

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

True, I agree about Pletcher's older horses. Thats why in previous threads I had mentioned that this horse will probably benefit from a trainer switch like Mandella, Frankel. He is owned by Stronach so he may switch to Frankel or Brian Lynch

That's fair enough and very plausible as far Stronach and trainer switches go.