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Old 06-19-2008, 07:56 PM
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how would you have any idea in advance how he was going to run? only believe what you see and not trainerspeak or other forms of hype or misinformation.
well at 1-1, he is expected to run better then he did, correct ?
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:03 PM
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well at 1-1, he is expected to run better then he did, correct ?
many like you hoped he would run better, and piled loads of dumb money on him. basing expectations of a top performance on the trainer, breeding, and workouts is not a good approach. you'll only find overbet hyped horses that will never win often enough to be profitable for you.
those factors are what everyone is looking at therefore you have no edge when you base opinions on them.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:08 PM
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many like you hoped he would run better, and piled loads of dumb money on him. basing expectations of a top performance on the trainer, breeding, and workouts is not a good approach. you'll only find overbet hyped horses that will never win often enough to be profitable for you.
those factors are what everyone is looking at therefore you have no edge when you base opinions on them.
don't forget, he DID have an article on drf. no wonder he went off like he did, everyone read drf and thought he couldn't lose.


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jcs, you've asked for help with your handicapping. yet you're still going by pedigree. that alone won't tell you much.

this race was in cali, right? bob baffert had a speedster, based on his works? how does speed do on awt?
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:10 PM
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don't forget, he DID have an article on drf. no wonder he went off like he did, everyone read drf and thought he couldn't lose.


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jcs, you've asked for help with your handicapping. yet you're still going by pedigree. that alone won't tell you much.

this race was in cali, right? bob baffert had a speedster, based on his works? how does speed do on awt?
I DID NOT BET... WHEN DID I SAY I BET THIS RACE ? I WAS INTRESTED TO WATCH, BUT NO BET
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:12 PM
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I DID NOT BET... WHEN DID I SAY I BET THIS RACE ? I WAS INTRESTED TO WATCH, BUT NO BET
easy, killer. when i saw you were so bummed, and knowing you bet, i assumed you did here.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:29 PM
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easy, killer. when i saw you were so bummed, and knowing you bet, i assumed you did here.
I WAS BUMMED because i am a fan of the sport... i liked the pedigree, i want candy ride to do good, and i thought this one would be stong.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:16 PM
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I WAS BUMMED because i am a fan of the sport... i liked the pedigree, i want candy ride to do good, and i thought this one would be stong.
well a candy ride horse in the race ran very well, you got the best of both worlds, a horrid chalk and a candy ride that ran well.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:10 PM
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many like you hoped he would run better, and piled loads of dumb money on him. basing expectations of a top performance on the trainer, breeding, and workouts is not a good approach. you'll only find overbet hyped horses that will never win often enough to be profitable for you.
those factors are what everyone is looking at therefore you have no edge when you base opinions on them.
i did not bet a cent on the race, i said if hes anywhere near the morning line... i did not bet a dime on that race
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