W/E Beyers - REVISED Curlin 110

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Kasept

He got a 96.


And FYI to Chuck.. Bubble Berry got a 69...

nm i understand the 96 i was misreading it, i thought his race was 142 and change, now i see the times

[ArlJim78]

i had a feeling that there would be some comments about Curlins beyer, being only 105. he only ran the last two furlongs and that was plenty. if you consider all the factors, it was a very strong perfromance.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i had a feeling that there would be some comments about Curlins beyer, being only 105. he only ran the last two furlongs and that was plenty. if you consider all the factors, it was a very strong perfromance.

It was as good as it needed to be. Every race seemed to have a slow pace on sat but the foster was a waltz for that kind of race. He was clearly better than that bunch of bums that lined up against him. The scary prospect for next year is that this group of 3 year olds sucks and the best of them are almost assuredly retired at the end of the year. This years handicap horses (a guess that is an outdated term also) are as bad as any I can remember and next year may be worse. It is not out of the realm of possibility that a horse will be claimed and win a graded stake next out. Maybe a grade 1.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It was as good as it needed to be. Every race seemed to have a slow pace on sat but the foster was a waltz for that kind of race. He was clearly better than that bunch of bums that lined up against him. The scary prospect for next year is that this group of 3 year olds sucks and the best of them are almost assuredly retired at the end of the year. This years handicap horses (a guess that is an outdated term also) are as bad as any I can remember and next year may be worse. It is not out of the realm of possibility that a horse will be claimed and win a graded stake next out. Maybe a grade 1.

next years handicap division?? now that is a scary thought, I don't even want to think about. i can envision a revitalized Perfect Drift coming back and towering over all of them.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

next years handicap division?? now that is a scary thought, I don't even want to think about. i can envision a revitalized Perfect Drift coming back and towering over all of them.

His past form would make him a solid top 3 in the division.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is not out of the realm of possibility that a horse will be claimed and win a graded stake next out. Maybe a grade 1.

You must not have been following Del Mar that closely the last few years.

Pure As Gold won the Grade 1 Bing Crosby at 23/1 first off the claim in 2006.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You must not have been following Del Mar that closely the last few years.

Pure As Gold won the Grade 1 Bing Crosby at 23/1 first off the claim in 2006.

I think every horse in the race that year was an ex-claimer. Maybe not Battle Won, who eventually descended into the mid-claiming ranks this winter.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Did Bordonaro run for a tag early on? Perhaps MCL?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Did Bordonaro run for a tag early on? Perhaps MCL?

Yep. Ran in a couple of starters as a result. Don't know if he won first time out.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You must not have been following Del Mar that closely the last few years.

Pure As Gold won the Grade 1 Bing Crosby at 23/1 first off the claim in 2006.

I am boycotting that race

[letswastemoney]

Heatseeker could be horse of the year next year if they kept him in training

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Heatseeker could be horse of the year next year if they kept him in training

And kept him on synthetics

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This years handicap horses (a guess that is an outdated term also) are as bad as any I can remember and next year may be worse. It is not out of the realm of possibility that a horse will be claimed and win a graded stake next out. Maybe a grade 1.

Not that I necessarily disagree with you, and maybe with the use of synthetics out west it ultimately means little, but I have to say that the CA division is pretty solid this year. Neither Heatseeker, Tiago, or Surf Cat have missed a beat all season long and up until he got hurt, Monterey Jazz was a prominent force himself. Old-timers that try hard like Lava Man and Big Booster (and perhaps Perfect Drift) add a little more depth and there are a couple of horses that may improve like Champs Elysees, Monzante, and Neko Bay.

At the same time, praise should be given to Dan Hendricks for his handling of the good turf horse Daytona, who has butted heads without a break since last October, and even after a big Grade 1 victory last out, is still pointing for a Grade 2 target in the next couple of weeks rather than staying in the stall awaiting something like the Eddie Read or Arlington Million.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Not that I necessarily disagree with you, and maybe with the use of synthetics out west it ultimately means little, but I have to say that the CA division is pretty solid this year. Neither Heatseeker, Tiago, or Surf Cat have missed a beat all season long and up until he got hurt, Monterey Jazz was a prominent force himself. Old-timers that try hard like Lava Man and Big Booster (and perhaps Perfect Drift) add a little more depth and there are a couple of horses that may improve like Champs Elysees, Monzante, and Neko Bay.

At the same time, praise should be given to Dan Hendricks for his handling of the good turf horse Daytona, who has butted heads without a break since last October, and even after a big Grade 1 victory last out, is still pointing for a Grade 2 target in the next couple of weeks rather than staying in the stall awaiting something like the Eddie Read or Arlington Million.

IMO Heatseeker and tiago are second raters. Surf cat may have been talented but Headleys horses never seem to run much anyway. Lava man is over the hill as is PD and Big Booster is the second coming of Shifty Sheik. They are not really top horses.

Daytona is a good horse though he is all turf.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

IMO Heatseeker and tiago are second raters. Surf cat may have been talented but Headleys horses never seem to run much anyway. Lava man is over the hill as is PD and Big Booster is the second coming of Shifty Sheik. They are not really top horses.

Daytona is a good horse though he is all turf.

Here's a good trivia for you Chuck....name the four distances Shifty Sheik ran following the claim by Oscar. He won the first three races.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Here's a good trivia for you Chuck....name the four distances Shifty Sheik ran following the claim by Oscar. He won the first three races.

I know the first one was 1 1/8th at Saratoga, just missed the tr.