Dedumbeaux's Ride

[hockey2315]

I wish Belmont had Trackus. Seemed like from one angle Coa was herding Kent wide big time. Have to watch the head-on but it seemed like he covered way more ground than most have mentioned.

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I wish Belmont had Trackus. Seemed like from one angle Coa was herding Kent wide big time. Have to watch the head-on but it seemed like he covered way more ground than most have mentioned.

The ABC angle from above had him 7 wide on the backstretch imo.
Quite amazing. Coa is a very determined fella. Very. He had the favorite
smack in the middle of his radar. I did mention it but it did not really
matter. He was cooked.

[hockey2315]

Coa is ridiculously dirty. I think Drugs or someone actually predicted that he would pull something like he did. Not sure that it's what did Big Brown in, but it's a more viable explanation than "he was missing his winstrol fix."

It didn't matter but he almost got Big Brown's nose lodged in Da' Tara's ass.

[The Bid]

He may not have won today but the ride on that horse from the 1 hole was a high ranking Dedumbeaux butcher job

Ive never said hes a genius, I think hes a dumb rider. He had clean trips in the Preakness and Derby. He could have had a clean trip today if KD would have let him roll early

Bob when he talked about the horse on ESPN he never said well we had it rough early, I got in tight early, I had to steady. He said I gave the horse a nice clean trip and just didnt have any horse. If thats a nice clean trip Id hate to see what he thinks a bad trip is.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by The Bid

He may not have won today but the ride on that horse from the 1 hole was a high ranking Dedumbeaux butcher job

I'm not arguing that point, but what do you think he wanted/was supposed to do? Was the plan to go out with Da Tara? I don't think sending BB on the engine in the Belmont was the plan

[The Bid]

Yeah, why not go with Da Tara. If they think the horse is that good he should surely have been able to eyeball De Tara early and at least had a clean run

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by The Bid

He may not have won today but the ride on that horse from the 1 hole was a high ranking Dedumbeaux butcher job

Ive never said hes a genius, I think hes a dumb rider. He had clean trips in the Preakness and Derby. He could have had a clean trip today if KD would have let him roll early

Bob when he talked about the horse on ESPN he never said well we had it rough early, I got in tight early, I had to steady. He said I gave the horse a nice clean trip and just didnt have any horse. If thats a nice clean trip Id hate to see what he thinks a bad trip is.

I'll stop now as defending Desormeaux can only go so far...My feeling was if he didn't have the horse (maybe you disagree), I'm not going to blame the ride for the result

[The Bid]

Bob

I do not agree or disagree that the trip would have mattered. He may have been flat today, we will never know. What I do know is that a horse thats never had any traffic trouble steadied like that early and starts tossing their head around youre going to be in real trouble when the running begins. Im not saying he would have won, but Dedumbeaux didnt give him any chance to run his race.

Im upping the ride to 8 Dedumbeaux's

[The Bid]

Do I think it mattered? He lost the race 220 yards in by not putting the best and fastest horse on the lead. Allowing the horse to get pinned down, steadied, and ultimately buried. It was a horrible ride, yes I think it mattered. I think it cost the horse any chance he had of winning. Pathetic ride and he took no fault for the horses lack of run late.

He was rank because he let that crow cross over on him. He ran up heels, he steadied 3 times before they were 300 yards in. Looked like a bad run at Los Al

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Do I think it mattered? He lost the race 220 yards in by not putting the best and fastest horse on the lead. Allowing the horse to get pinned down, steadied, and ultimately buried. It was a horrible ride, yes I think it mattered. I think it cost the horse any chance he had of winning. Pathetic ride and he took no fault for the horses lack of run late.

and I didn't hear anyone ask him either

but to your first point...why was he a genius for rating him in the Derby and Preakness then?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Do I think it mattered? He lost the race 220 yards in by not putting the best and fastest horse on the lead. Allowing the horse to get pinned down, steadied, and ultimately buried. It was a horrible ride, yes I think it mattered. I think it cost the horse any chance he had of winning. Pathetic ride and he took no fault for the horses lack of run late.

He was rank because he let that crow cross over on him. He ran up heels, he steadied 3 times before they were 300 yards in. Looked like a bad run at Los Al

you are 100% correct, he should have went to the lead and made someone beat him. not take back, and chance other jockeys teaming up on him, like coa did.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

you are 100% correct, he should have went to the lead and made someone beat him. not take back, and chance other jockeys teaming up on him, like coa did.

I've searched you tube for a "red board on jockey ride" that I could post but came up empty