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Old 06-05-2008, 08:56 AM
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carter said it would be the worst thing possible if hillary was vp...i tend to agree......
I'm not sure Obama gets elected anyway, but I really don't think he does if Hilary is VP. She is just too polarizing and would motivate the far right who may not support/turn out to vote for McCain at this point
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:20 AM
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Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:46 AM
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Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right
Comparing Obama and Farrakkan in any similar context is laughable Bid..come on...I'm not saying you're racist, but all your comparison's are race driven, it seems. Do you think he has another "secret" agenda he's advancing besides his platforms?
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:49 AM
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Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right
Obama is pretty much 1/2 at all int'l sports books to win it with Mccain at 3/2.

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/...ican-candidate
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:55 AM
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Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right
Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:58 AM
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Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:24 PM
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Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.
Well said.
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Old 06-05-2008, 05:45 PM
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Win Virginia, PUHLEASE
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Win Virginia, PUHLEASE
democratic governor, senator and state senate majority.

huge edge to dems in registering new voters since 2006.

yeah. it's out of reach.
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:55 PM
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btw: latest statewide poll in indiana shows obama ahead of mccain 43-42%.

it's early and i doubt indiana would really be in play in november.

but even if obama does nothing more than make mccain spend time and $ defending rock solid republican indiana, that's a win.

virginia is definitely going to be a swing state. anyone making a call now for november is just pg1985'ing.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:58 PM
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Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.

Scott, you can't be serious? No way he wins VA. The last dem to carry VA was Lyndon Johnson some 34 years ago. Obama has ZERO shot to win VA.
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:13 PM
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Scott, you can't be serious? No way he wins VA. The last dem to carry VA was Lyndon Johnson some 34 years ago. Obama has ZERO shot to win VA.
The demographics in Virginia are changing and it is ripe for the picking in the fall. Check out the polls there:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008.../virginia.html

It is very much up for grabs. If he chooses Webb as his running mate I think he'll take it. Even without Webb he has a very good shot.
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:26 PM
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The demographics in Virginia are changing and it is ripe for the picking in the fall. Check out the polls there:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008.../virginia.html

It is very much up for grabs. If he chooses Webb as his running mate I think he'll take it. Even without Webb he has a very good shot.

That would be his only chance, IMO...and even then I still don't think he will win.

People talk about Dem. Gov Kaine (3rd nicest Democrat I know behind Genuine Risk and GB Bob) and state senate majority, etc...but this is the same commonwealth that actually had Doug Wilder as it's Gov. in the 80's
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:29 PM
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That would be his only chance, IMO...and even then I still don't think he will win.

People talk about Dem. Gov Kaine (3rd nicest Democrat I know behind Genuine Risk and GB Bob) and state senate majority, etc...but this is the same commonwealth that actually had Doug Wilder as it's Gov. in the 80's
lol...thnx..I think..

80% of my friends are righties too..they like me, just think I'm wrong
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That would be his only chance, IMO...and even then I still don't think he will win.

People talk about Dem. Gov Kaine (3rd nicest Democrat I know behind Genuine Risk and GB Bob) and state senate majority, etc...but this is the same commonwealth that actually had Doug Wilder as it's Gov. in the 80's

I wonder how much Allen Iverson paid Doug Wilder to pardon him from the charges from the fight he had in the bowling alley.
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That would be his only chance, IMO...and even then I still don't think he will win.

People talk about Dem. Gov Kaine (3rd nicest Democrat I know behind Genuine Risk and GB Bob)
Awww....

(This Dem is mad at her no-different-that-the-Republicans party on eviscerating the 4th Amendment this weekend, though. Loyalty to the party no matter what is definitely not a Dem characteristic. And they should be ashamed of themselves.)
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That would be his only chance, IMO...and even then I still don't think he will win.

People talk about Dem. Gov Kaine (3rd nicest Democrat I know behind Genuine Risk and GB Bob) and state senate majority, etc...but this is the same commonwealth that actually had Doug Wilder as it's Gov. in the 80's


Are you nuts!!!??
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The demographics in Virginia are changing and it is ripe for the picking in the fall. Check out the polls there:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008.../virginia.html

It is very much up for grabs. If he chooses Webb as his running mate I think he'll take it. Even without Webb he has a very good shot.
Brandon Webb has a better shot of winning the NL Cy Young. He may make a good president too.
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Scott, you can't be serious? No way he wins VA. The last dem to carry VA was Lyndon Johnson some 34 years ago. Obama has ZERO shot to win VA.

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