No Dime Supers at NYRA on Fri. and Sat.

[Alan07]

There are no dime supers at Pimlico

[2MinsToPost]

Agree 100% they have their place and it is not on big days like the Triple Crown, Breeders Cup etc etc.. For one you have so much money rolling thru the windows that the last thing these folks should be worried about is increasing handle with dime supers. They basically will just clog the lines with inexperienced players confusing tellers on one of the busiest four days in racing.

I totally agree with you as well on the idea of just having them on races such as Claiming and MSW. I think tracks should have two of them per card, it really is not necessary to have one for every race.

[Travis Stone]

Dime supers have a tendency to hurt other pools and the tracks overall handle.

With a dime super, a person will take $10 and spend $2.40 on the four horse box at a few difference tracks. Without dime supers, they often take the $10 and spend it at the home track instead.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Dime supers have a tendency to hurt other pools and the tracks overall handle.

With a dime super, a person will take $10 and spend $2.40 on the four horse box at a few difference tracks. Without dime supers, they often take the $10 and spend it at the home track instead.

Yeah, but that's the home track's fault for not having dime supers.

There isn't much to base an argument one way or another on, but I feel like people are just looking at the decreased ticket prices and saying it hurts handle, and not factoring in new players who wouldn't have played the super AT ALL were it not available for $.10.

[bmont22]

If they allowed dime supers on Saturday one would have to get on line to bet the 10th around the 5th. Imagine all the once a year players fumbling to call out or punch in their supers.
They could still have them on Friday.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by bmont22

If they allowed dime supers on Saturday one would have to get on line to bet the 10th around the 5th. Imagine all the once a year players fumbling to call out or punch in their supers.
They could still have them on Friday.

I still think that the "dime supers tie up the lines" is a myth.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I still think that the "dime supers tie up the lines" is a myth.

We don't know one way or another because there hasn't been a day with 100,000 in attendance that had dime supers. We can only talk in terms of potential, and it has the POTENTIAL to be a total cluster****. Though I don't think it would be that severe, I think that they would cause SOME slowdown, which is not something you can afford on a day where it take 10 minutes to make a bet.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Dime supers have a tendency to hurt other pools and the tracks overall handle.

With a dime super, a person will take $10 and spend $2.40 on the four horse box at a few difference tracks. Without dime supers, they often take the $10 and spend it at the home track instead.

You are too young to remember but tracks in CA used to say the same thing about "exotic" wagers. They used to have a $5 min on many of the "exotic" bets like exacta's. We see how that's worked out.

[justindew]

It might be becasue some tracks (like Churchill. Not sure if Belmont does this) have to bring in temporary mutuel clerks on big days, and they would need additional training to be able to take dime supers. For instance, I know on some tote machines there is no button for a .10 wager. It requires additional steps for the teller.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by justindew

It might be becasue some tracks (like Churchill. Not sure if Belmont does this) have to bring in temporary mutuel clerks on big days, and they would need additional training to be able to take dime supers. For instance, I know on some tote machines there is no button for a .10 wager. It requires additional steps for the teller.

They bring in clerks from upstate that normally work summers in Saratoga.
In addition to that I'm sure they train some temporary clerks. Even with that betting lines get very long. I was there in 2002 and it was a lot of fun, but the lines were long for everything.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Dime supers have a tendency to hurt other pools and the tracks overall handle.

With a dime super, a person will take $10 and spend $2.40 on the four horse box at a few difference tracks. Without dime supers, they often take the $10 and spend it at the home track instead.

we covered this before, there is no way to back that up and it doesn't make any sense. why base your wagering menu on a few geezers walking around with $10 to wager? even if you succeeded in capturing the full $10 from all these people by not offering the dime super (which I dont believe is possible), do all those $10 add up to more than you lose from the ADW people that like the dime supers but go elsewhere cause you don't offer it? or how about the $10 players who stay home because they came to the track specically to play them?