5/31-6/1 (WO): Nassau S. (Gr. II); Plate Trial

[justindew]

Harlem Rocker off the board.

[letswastemoney]

ouch

[the_fat_man]

Damn, guess his last race wasn't as easy as most thought.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Or maybe he didn't like the surface. Nah, can't be that.

Exactly, HOSS. I imagine they never put the horse on the surface before the race. Imagine that.

He really should've been in the Preakness.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Exactly, HOSS. I imagine they never put the horse on the surface before the race. Imagine that.

He really should've been in the Preakness.

Yeah, he should have been there.....

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Yeah, he would have been a real threat to BIG Brown in the Preakness
So much for this fast 3 yr.old

[blackthroatedwind]

Once again, against his trainer's wishes, Stronach makes a total blunder. He learned absolutely nothing from the race. Is the horse distance challenged or did he hate Polytrack? Who knows.

Belonged in the Preakness. On to the Dwyer now I suppose.

[Bobby Fischer]

well we knew that HR might not like the track, not a huge deal if they are patient, but he lost momentum of his form.

too bad Not Bourbon wasn't pointed toward this series with a longterm strategy, he seems fairly talented. Could use a rest, if we do see him back in this series I think he is very vulnerable.

The Turf horse Solitaire looks like he should do extremely well in this entire canadiant triple crown series against this level.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

well we knew that HR might not like the track, not a huge deal if they are patient, but he lost momentum of his form.

too bad Not Bourbon wasn't pointed toward this series with a longterm strategy, he seems fairly talented. Could use a rest, if we do see him back in this series I think he is very vulnerable.

The Turf horse Solitaire looks like he should do extremely well in this entire canadiant triple crown series against this level.

I would have serious issues Not Bourbon will get the 1 1/4, I can't see him being effective at that distance.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by CSC

I would have serious issues Not Bourbon will get the 1 1/4, I can't see him being effective at that distance.

Exactly.

When you have a very talented canadian horse like that, and you have ideas about the Queen's Plate series, you want to

1.gradually stretch him out.

2. get him to rate.- Even if rating means running 24s and 48s and 112s.

3. You want to maybe get him a race on turf.

This was my point about Not Bourbon all along. They just kind of tried to win a decent sprint with him race after race, and never did any of those things.

Even if he is the most talented canadian 3yo, and even if he is able to eventually get 10furlongs, he is being abruptly tested.

he should probably get a layoff or point to 7 furlongs.


(now watch him take home the Can Triple crown )

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Once again, against his trainer's wishes, Stronach makes a total blunder. He learned absolutely nothing from the race. Is the horse distance challenged or did he hate Polytrack? Who knows.

Belonged in the Preakness. On to the Dwyer now I suppose.

Maybe he learned not to point for the Queen's Plate. That counts.

[CSC]

If I were handicapping Harlem Rocker's next race today's result would be a throwout. In respect to the horses that finished ahead of him it is not possible that all 3 are better horses than him. It is impossible to conclude why the horse ran so badly, all we know is he is much better than this. There are times a horse runs better second time over a track, since the Queen's Plate was the pointed race from the start that is where he should go in my opinion, the Preakness and Ohio Derby are things of the past. The one positive thing is he will now atleast be bettable if he goes onto the Plate. Even with the question marks if he was declared sound I would back him in Plate at a fair price. Which up until today would never have been imaginable.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by CSC

If I were handicapping Harlem Rocker's next race today's result would be a throwout. In respect to the horses that finished ahead of him it is not possible that all 3 are better horses than him. It is impossible to conclude why the horse ran so badly, all we know is he is much better than this. There are times a horse runs better second time over a track, since the Queen's Plate was the pointed race from the start that is where he should go in my opinion, the Preakness and Ohio Derby are things of the past. The one positive thing is he will now atleast be bettable if he goes onto the Plate. Even with the question marks if he was declared sound I would back him in Plate at a fair price. Which up until today would never have been imaginable.

You're absolutely insane if you think they should run him back in the plate.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by justindew

Harlem Rocker off the board.

Bridge jumpers!

[mark2061mn]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Bridge jumpers!

$39,000 of the $58,000 in the show pool bet on him, Madison County bridge jumping not Golden Gate.

[hockey2315]

Stronach = Idiot. . . Poor Pletcher. . . Maybe now we'll actually get to see this horse in races that matter.