Prado on Casino Drive

stonegossard · #1 05-28-2008, 02:03 PM

Prado loses the mount on Big Brown.....then is the jock on the horse that beats Big Brown. I would say it's safe to say that Dutrow wont be riding Prado anymore if CD beats BB.

http://drf.com/news/article/94957.html

Sightseek · #2 05-28-2008, 02:06 PM

When did he ever have the mount on Big Brown? Only Rose & Kent D have ridden him.

robfla · #3 05-28-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

When did he ever have the mount on Big Brown? Only Rose & Kent D have ridden him.

wasnt he listed as the rider the day he broke his maiden?

jeremy rose filled in when prado had a spill or fell ill

The Indomitable DrugS · #4 05-28-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla

wasnt he listed as the rider the day he broke his maiden?

jeremy rose filled in when prado had a spill or fell ill

Yes.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/...0,712528.story

stonegossard · #5 05-28-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

When did he ever have the mount on Big Brown? Only Rose & Kent D have ridden him.

Prado worked the horse after the purchase and Dutrow wanted Prado on the horse. The owners wanted Desroemeaux.

justindew · #6 05-28-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard

Prado worked the horse after the purchase and Dutrow wanted Prado on the horse. The owners wanted Desroemeaux.

I hear the horse wanted Mike Smith.

MisterB · #7 05-28-2008, 02:06 PM

Prado is Dutrows go to guy. He won't bite off his nose to spite his face.

NoLuvForPletch · #8 05-28-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard

Prado loses the mount on Big Brown.....then is the jock on the horse that beats Big Brown. I would say it's safe to say that Dutrow wont be riding Prado anymore if CD beats BB.

http://drf.com/news/article/94957.html

anyone else surprised by this, for 2 reasons?

a) as previously stated, prado and dutrow have a relationship...wouldn't it seem odd if prado beats big brown?

b) from the casino drive side...prado and dutrow have a relationship...how did it work out for hard spun last year when he had TAP's co-main man riding him against rags?

stonegossard · #9 05-28-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

anyone else surprised by this, for 2 reasons?

a) as previously stated, prado and dutrow have a relationship...wouldn't it seem odd if prado beats big brown?

b) from the casino drive side...prado and dutrow have a relationship...how did it work out for hard spun last year when he had TAP's co-main man riding him against rags?

I dont think Prado would risk his whole career to throw/not try in one race. If Prado gave CD a "questionable" ride a lot of trainers would never ride him again.

NoLuvForPletch · #10 05-28-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard

I dont think Prado would risk his whole career to throw/not try in one race. If Prado gave CD a "questionable" ride a lot of trainers would never ride him again.

Yes, you can plainly see how it has affected Gomez's career...Hard Spun walks the shedrow faster than they went in the Belmont last year...

stonegossard · #11 05-28-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Yes, you can plainly see how it has affected Gomez's career...

Gomez didnt stiff HS. He just gave a bad ride. Cant really compare the 2 situations.

I think people are implying that because of the relationship between Prado/Dutrow, Prado might not try. I doubt Prado would be that stupid to jeopardize his whole future.

philcski · #12 05-28-2008, 02:28 PM

Anybody insinuating that Prado would stiff the ride on Casino Drive to try to beat Big Brown (or alternatively, to let Big Brown win) is really off base.

He isn't Jerry Bailey.

deltagulf · #13 05-30-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Anybody insinuating that Prado would stiff the ride on Casino Drive to try to beat Big Brown (or alternatively, to let Big Brown win) is really off base.

He isn't Jerry Bailey.

aren't they here to win can't see prado doing anything funny. with the

world watching to see if b.b. can win.

NoLuvForPletch · #14 05-28-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard

Gomez didnt stiff HS. He just gave a bad ride. Cant really compare the 2 situations.

I think people are implying that because of the relationship between Prado/Dutrow, Prado might not try. I doubt Prado would be that stupid to jeopardize his whole future.

So you are saying that there isn't anyone else out there, besides me and probably Porter, that thinks it was more than just a bad ride? 115 and 1/5 for 3/4's with Hard Spun under a Santos-like stranglehold, watching Curlin the whole way and keeping him pinned down on the rail, moving whenever he moved, while Rags was able to run in the clear the whole way.

Remember, Gomez was Rags jock and Porter wouldn't let him out of the commitment after TAP announce she was going to run.

stonegossard · #15 05-28-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

So you are saying that there isn't anyone else out there, besides me and probably Porter, that thinks it was more than just a bad ride? 115 and 1/5 for 3/4's with Hard Spun under a Santos-like stranglehold, watching Curlin the whole way and keeping him pinned down on the rail, moving whenever he moved, while Rags was able to run in the clear the whole way.

Remember, Gomez was Rags jock and Porter wouldn't let him out of the commitment after TAP announce she was going to run.

Thinking like that is INSANE. Hard Spun was not gonna win that race on the lead. They tried to rate him....didnt work. You really think a top jock like Gomez is gonna throw a race on purpose? Do you know for a fact that Jones didnt tell Gomez to try and rate HS?

Crazy thinking.

booner · #16 05-28-2008, 06:03 PM

What happened to Take coming to Belmont?

Of course, the obvious answer would be Prado's familiarity with Belmont Park; I was just wondering if something else happened.

johnny pinwheel · #17 05-30-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Yes, you can plainly see how it has affected Gomez's career...Hard Spun walks the shedrow faster than they went in the Belmont last year...

yeah go-go is a good rider. but sometimes i question his rides. last years belmont was one of them. i'll admit i bet hardspun. but come on they were walking and he held that horse back. the horses advantage is his tactical speed. and why did the trainer change to begin with. Larry jones gets all these praises, but i don't know . pino was good with that horse.

MisterB · #18 05-28-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You seem to be forgetting that Prado rode the Preakness to win, like he was supposed to. He boxed in Big brown out of the first turn and Dutrow complained about it in the press. Prado is a pro, I doubt he'll do anything but give his best out there.

How did Prado box in BB? This is bull crap.

The Indomitable DrugS · #19 05-28-2008, 02:58 PM

He tried to - KJD was able to get outside - but at something of a cost.

dalakhani · #20 05-28-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He tried to - KJD was able to get outside - but at something of a cost.

What did it cost him?