How to bet exotics??

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Hey folks: I'm curious as to how the players construct a bet! Especially spreading on a tri-wheel! I've had luck with the 10 super, but am going now strictly on tris'....mainly because Kasept put out the 35-1 shot that gave me a 1753 payout! BUT...I'm concerned that I'm putting too much on the table to try and catch them regularly! I realize that many are WPS bettors here...but in order to make up a ticket(pic6,4,3) you have to come to a conclusion as to who will hit the board anyway! Any thoughts??

Well the first thing that I try to stay away from is from boxing horses in a trifecta or super. No way should you give equal weight to more than 2 horses. Now I dont mind boxing in an exacta. In fact, I would suggest boxing in an exacta. If I am betting a tri and I find a horse to put on top and the horse is greater than 9-1 I will put that horse on top with all and all (especially if it is a large field). But also keep in mind that you better have win money on the horse. If you have a 10 horse field and you key a horse on top with all and all you are looking at a $72 ticket for $1. $72 to win on a 9-1 horse will yield a profit of $648.00. If your 9-1 is followed by fav and fav then you wont be making much if any at all. This race from Arlington is a perfect example

7 Stormin Gen. Tommy Eduardo E. Perez 20.80 11.00 5.80
10 Outer Bounds Earlie Fires 5.60 3.40
6 Amon Rene R. Douglas 2.40


Wager Type Winning Numbers Payoff

$1 Pick 3 4-6-7 (3 correct) 169.30
$1 Pick 4 3/4-4-6-7 (4 correct) 232.30
$2 Exacta 7-10 129.80
$2 Superfecta 7-10-6-4 2,515.80
$2 Trifecta 7-10-6 436.00

For the $1 tri you got back $218. Now this was an 11 horse field. So to go single with all with all then your ticket is $90. $90 to win on the 7 horse would have yielded a profit of $846.00. The reason why I picked this race is because I had the $1 tri and $90 to win. So be careful betting exotics.

[timmgirvan]

Euro: thanks for the input! You're playing with more capital than I do,but the theory I understand.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Euro: thanks for the input! You're playing with more capital than I do,but the theory I understand.

With small capital you still want to follow the same structure philosophy. Find yourself a single and then narrow the 2nd place horses and make sure to go deep in 3rd. Any horse, no matter how bad they look on paper, can get up for 3rd. Also look for tendencies of horses. If you have a horse that has 21 career starts with 1 win, but has 4 places and 6 shows then that is a good horse to key in 2nd and 3rd. So basically you flip your key to 2nd or 3rd. I would not invest tons in a trifecta. I would not bet anymore than $20. That is a single with 5 with 5. That is a pretty good bet. When I used to bet trifectas, I would structure my tickets like this.

x
with
xxx
with
all

The cost depends on the field. But once you get a bank roll, you will be better serve by betting to win.

[2 Dollar Bill]

Trips & supers can be fun.. just dont spend your whole bankroll on them.. and allways remember to place some win bets... I like to hit the first Daily Double..then have some play money for some tri's...Allways remember that the favs dont allways run 1 -2-3... so look for some value... Have fun & dont bet over your head !!

[Thunder Gulch]

I play a lot of $27 trifectas with the general format
1,2,3/1,2,3,4/1,2,3,4,5 ....obviously, it varies somewhat from race to race, but I never go over this number of combinations, instead often reducing the first slot to two contenders, or the middle to three. With exactas, I usually only play if I can key one horse over a couple of others.

[2 Dollar Bill]

Thanks for all the ""food for thought""... Nice read, gee Im learning something...

[timmgirvan]

Yeah....I was using triboxs' and the started to spread when I just missed a big one(Saratoga was a bitch last week) to usually 18 bucks....but my wins went down...so I'm rethinking my approach for money management and efficient bet strategy.