Beyer still not sold on Big Brown

[blackthroatedwind]

If he retires after the Belmont I can only hope his foals end up being as spectacular as the Smarmy Jones's are reported to be.

And, oh yeah, Smarmy was one horse I am actually confident Big Brown could have handled. He would have beaten Afleet Alex as well.

Dynever, however, would have crushed him like a grape.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Dynever, however, would have crushed him like a grape.

Only if there was another horse in the race that could finish first.

[zippyneedsawin]

Not to beat a dead horse here (sorry for the analogy), but who exactly has Casino Drive beaten that we're supposed to be impressed with (as compared to Big Brown)? A bunch of Japanese-bred maidens and a weak Peter Pan field consisting of Mint Lane, Ready's Echo, Golden Spikes, Cosmic, Spark Candle, Tomcito, Deputyville and Fast Talking. I'd say CD is making a big class jump in the Belmont.

[MLC]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Not to beat a dead horse here (sorry for the analogy), but who exactly has Casino Drive beaten that we're supposed to be impressed with (as compared to Big Brown)? A bunch of Japanese-bred maidens and a weak Peter Pan field consisting of Mint Lane, Ready's Echo, Golden Spikes, Cosmic, Spark Candle, Tomcito, Deputyville and Fast Talking. I'd say CD is making a big class jump in the Belmont.

Didn't Tomcito get up for 3rd in Big Brown's Florida Derby?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Not to beat a dead horse here (sorry for the analogy), but who exactly has Casino Drive beaten that we're supposed to be impressed with (as compared to Big Brown)? A bunch of Japanese-bred maidens and a weak Peter Pan field consisting of Mint Lane, Ready's Echo, Golden Spikes, Cosmic, Spark Candle, Tomcito, Deputyville and Fast Talking. I'd say CD is making a big class jump in the Belmont.

He's(CD) getting press because frankly this crop is very mediocre. The only horse that has shown any ability to give him a race is pointing for racing in Canada and that is why we are left searching and building up horses that perhaps don't deserve the press. At this moment unless someone improves drastically and if Big Brown stays healthy it looks he will join the TC club.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Not to beat a dead horse here (sorry for the analogy), but who exactly has Casino Drive beaten that we're supposed to be impressed with (as compared to Big Brown)? A bunch of Japanese-bred maidens and a weak Peter Pan field consisting of Mint Lane, Ready's Echo, Golden Spikes, Cosmic, Spark Candle, Tomcito, Deputyville and Fast Talking. I'd say CD is making a big class jump in the Belmont.

Who exactly has Big Brown beat that we are supposed to be impressed with? Mint Lane and Icabad Crane are relatively equal horses and both were beaten by a similar number of lengths. Neither have beat anything and when they square off it will likely be the best horse either of them have faced. I, for one, am strongly hoping Big Brown loses cause if I have to hear anymore "best since Spectacular Bid" and "up there with Secretariat and Seattle Slew" comments about Big Brown I'll vomit.

[SniperSB23]

I just read the Big Brown, Big Red, and IEAH thread and vomited all over my keyboard.

[ArlJim78]

there's going to be mass vomiting in the days and weeks to come I feel.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

theres going to be mass vomiting in the days and weeks to come I feel.

And I thought Bernardini was overrated.