Beyer still not sold on Big Brown

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by ELA

We will see. I wouldn't be surprised if Curlin doesn't go -- 1000% however not due to ducking anyone. I agree, he has taken on all comers and will. Same label though -- a trainer who is an easy target. It's just as easy for an owner to be a target, when the so called public at large doesn't agree with a decision, and along comes the "If I owned that horse" syndrome.

I don't know "how much" better Big Brown might get, if at all. However, the same question(s) can be asked about Curlin.

Eric

Curlin doesn't need to get better. He has already proven he is a tremendous talent. Big Brown needs to get faster, much faster to take on Curlin. He might do it. We just have to hope he stays around. Although I suspect he will retired with a mysterious injury right after Casino Drive beats him.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Curlin doesn't need to get better. He has already proven he is a tremendous talent. Big Brown needs to get faster, much faster to take on Curlin. He might do it. We just have to hope he stays around. Although I suspect he will retired with a mysterious injury right after Casino Drive beats him.

sorta like Rags To Riches?

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

sorta like Rags To Riches?

No. Rags WON the Belmont. She raced again after it too.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I hope Curlin opts for the Japan Cup Dirt - Big Brown runs in the Arc - and the Breeders Cup Classic features three bad longshot turf marathoners who take to the synthetic track - and make up a giant trifecta.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I hope Curlin opts for the Japan Cup Dirt - Big Brown runs in the Arc - and the Breeders Cup Classic features three bad longshot turf marathoners who take to the synthetic track - and make up a giant trifecta.

Malibu Moonshine over Successful Appeal and Zenyatta

[onebadbeast]

Everyone Hates A Winner. Deal With It, Triple Crown Is Going Down, We Have All Waited 30 Years F0r This! Writers Have Nothin Better To Do Than Pick, Pick, Pick, Like A Bunch Of Bitches Yappin On Their Cells All Day. I Know, I Was Married To One Of Those Cacklers. So Lets Get It On! Casino Sushi Vs. Have A Brown Day. Go Brown And End The Long Nightmare.

[Zippy Chippy]

Fortunately for Big Brown, he doesn't have to be a super horse to win the Triple Crown-- he just has to be better than the best horses of his generation. He is proving that he is just that. I don't think you can really fault Big Brown for having been foaled in a year when the crop was weaker than usual . . .

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Zippy Chippy

I don't think you can really fault Big Brown for having been foaled in a year when the crop was weaker than usual . . .

All this REGURGITATING is getting old. IF in fact the crop is weaker than usual THEN why weren't ALL THE EXPERTS ALL OVER BIG BROWN BEFORE THE DERBY?
Wouldn't you take $6.80 on a mortal lock? And he was a mortal lock IF the rest of the crop is crap. Right?

Wonder why, rather than spending time disseminating all this BS about the crop and BB's limitations (initially), some of these DOOFUSES weren't mortgaging their houses to get $6.80 (or that sweet $37.00 double with Proud Spell).

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by onebadbeast

Everyone Hates A Winner. Deal With It, Triple Crown Is Going Down, We Have All Waited 30 Years F0r This! Writers Have Nothin Better To Do Than Pick, Pick, Pick, Like A Bunch Of Bitches Yappin On Their Cells All Day. I Know, I Was Married To One Of Those Cacklers. So Lets Get It On! Casino Sushi Vs. Have A Brown Day. Go Brown And End The Long Nightmare.

Nobody really complained when it was Smarty Jones going for the Crown, or Silver Charm.

People have not been screaming for a Triple Crown winner for the sake of having a Triple Crown winner. It's a call for a super horse, who in turn, because of ability, can win the Triple Crown.

[onebadbeast]

I Know We Dont Have Big Red Here, But It Would Be Nice Anyway.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Nobody really complained when it was Smarty Jones going for the Crown, or Silver Charm.

People have not been screaming for a Triple Crown winner for the sake of having a Triple Crown winner. It's a call for a super horse, who in turn, because of ability, can win the Triple Crown.

i agree with that completely. we want to see something awesome-not the best of a bad bunch.

as for casino drive, if you agree with beyer that big brown is still untested, i don't know how you can then jump to casino drive, who is even more of a question mark.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by onebadbeast

Everyone Hates A Winner. Deal With It, Triple Crown Is Going Down, We Have All Waited 30 Years F0r This! Writers Have Nothin Better To Do Than Pick, Pick, Pick, Like A Bunch Of Bitches Yappin On Their Cells All Day. I Know, I Was Married To One Of Those Cacklers. So Lets Get It On! Casino Sushi Vs. Have A Brown Day. Go Brown And End The Long Nightmare.

....RIGHT ON......if people cant see with there own eyes that b.b is special. they should maybe opt for another hobby......

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

....RIGHT ON......if people cant see with there own eyes that b.b is special. they should maybe opt for another hobby......

special means a lot of things..The question is would he be as dominate or dominate at all in last years versions of the TC?

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

No. Rags WON the Belmont. She raced again after it too.

I must have missed that race after the Belmont. How did she do??

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Curlin doesn't need to get better. He has already proven he is a tremendous talent. Big Brown needs to get faster, much faster to take on Curlin. He might do it. We just have to hope he stays around. Although I suspect he will retired with a mysterious injury right after Casino Drive beats him.

I agree. I've thought Curlin had incredible talent from day one. My point is that Curlin might still be getting better. I don't think we've seen it all yet, and of course Big Brown has to step up -- perhaps big time -- to tangle with Curlin.

The mysterious injury nonsense is always overplayed by the conspiracy thinking fan. I heard it about RTR and didn't buy it at all. We hear it about all the 3yo colts -- although last year, all of the "Big 3" went straight through to the BC Classic. People get upset that we don't see them as 4yo's and have to blame and point fingers.

BTW, regarding the Casino Drive discussion -- sorry, but you are on your own. I'd be a bit careful if I were you -- don't smoke too much of that stuff, LOL.

Eric

[sdjcom]

so you watch casino drive beat nobody either in two races,and now he's the best thing since pegusas in greek mythology. as far as curlin he is a year older and has matured. at this point in his 3 yr old year after belmont he had2-3 losses. you have to compare big to older horses ? get a life you don't have a clue what you are talking about, however you have the right to your opinion