Evening Attire

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Why is this horse still allowed to race is my question? I'm being totally serious, too. How is it fair to the betting public to allow a horse that rarely leaves the gate on time to race?

His owner posts here....ask him.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

His owner posts here....ask him.

No offense, but I'm not really interested in what he thinks about it. I'm more interested why the stewards allow it. What do you think?

[the_fat_man]

I wonder if any of those in man-horse love with him actually BET any money.

That is the objective, to cash, right?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I wonder if any of those in man-horse love with him actually BET any money.

That is the objective, to cash, right?

Does it really matter?? People that included him in an exacta in race 8 at Belmont potentially won money on him today. People who love him and didn't bet on him won nothing. Yes, this is quite a conflict here!

[pgiaco]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

No offense, but I'm not really interested in what he thinks about it. I'm more interested why the stewards allow it. What do you think?

I would imagine since he hits the board pretty consistently and isn't odds-on most of the time the Stewards are hard pressed to ban him from racing. I also think that since he is Evening Attire he gets some slack. I just enjoy watching him run.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

No offense, but I'm not really interested in what he thinks about it. I'm more interested why the stewards allow it. What do you think?

He's a bad gate horse. There are a whole slew of bad gate horses. Where do you draw the line? Two lengths slow? Five lengths slow? Refusal to break? As a bettor, you know he's likely to break slowly and factor that into the equation as to what's a fair price. He did win a graded stakes race in December despite a slow break and almost won another today.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

He's a bad gate horse. There are a whole slew of bad gate horses. Where do you draw the line? Two lengths slow? Five lengths slow? Refusal to break? As a bettor, you know he's likely to break slowly and factor that into the equation as to what's a fair price. He did win a graded stakes race in December despite a slow break and almost won another today.

I see it the same way... he's an old guy and does it his own way, so you have to factor in what . At 12F the break doesn't mean a hoot, for that matter.

I'll bet Racecar Rhapsody spots them 10 on Saturday at the first call. Should he not start?

[zippyneedsawin]

so here's a horse who is competitive in stakes races as a 10 year old, and people still find a reason to be critical of him?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

so here's a horse who is competitive in stakes races as a 10 year old, and people still find a reason to be critical of him?

I like the horse, always have. Aside from that, as a bettor, I'm just curious where the line is drawn on situations like this. I also like that he takes a lot of wasted money when he runs...again as a bettor.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I like the horse, always have. Aside from that, as a bettor, I'm just curious where the line is drawn on situations like this. I also like that he takes a lot of wasted money when he runs...again as a bettor.

I have no clue why you would suggest that the steward could should or would stop a horse from earning.. Why in the world would not want to see him compete if sound and enjoying himself. I am sure when he stops being competitive he will have a nice paddock and all the best hay to eat..

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by philcski

I'll bet Racecar Rhapsody spots them 10 on Saturday at the first call. Should he not start?

I've got a vibe that he's closer this time around.

[The Bid]

If this were an unknown horse who broke slow consistantly I cant imagine the starter/stewards wouldnt address the situation.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Bid

If this were an unknown horse who broke slow consistantly I cant imagine the starter/stewards wouldnt address the situation.

Ding, ding, ding...that was the point. I was probably a bit over the top in the initial post just to stir things up.

[MisterB]

Great run Joe

[Norfolk]

I think I understand this now. Attire ran a 99 beyers number yesterday that is as high or higher than 11 out or 13 runners in tomorrow $1,000,000 Grade 1 Preakness. Therefore we should all get on the phone and tell the stewards to scratch those 11 slow horses from the Preakness.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

He's a bad gate horse. There are a whole slew of bad gate horses. Where do you draw the line? Two lengths slow? Five lengths slow? Refusal to break? As a bettor, you know he's likely to break slowly and factor that into the equation as to what's a fair price. He did win a graded stakes race in December despite a slow break and almost won another today.

Exactly. I'm not sure what the issue is..

[Chestnut Gal]

Congratulations to
Evening Attire and
his connections.
May you always be
happy, healthy, safe
and sound. Love You,
Handsome Boy!

I agree with Chestnut Gal.


I love you so much, big boy.

[letswastemoney]

He's interesting to watch....but I agree it's hard to swallow losing 3 to 5 lengths at the start as a bettor.

[dylbert]

If you start banning Evening Attire types, do you ban horses that quit next? Horses that don't run when they draw rail, or outside? Horses that don't like getting hit on left, or right? Just some food for thought...

EA doesn't quit, he is merely slow starter. I can find value there, especially if he races against habitual quitters. EA hits the board and pays owners and horse players. IMO, quitters burn more money than horses that break tardily like Evening Attire.