Wayne Catalano-Frank Calebrese

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Wow we're on another level of homerism here, folks.

You're right. There is nothing odd about the 70% win clip because these horses were supposed to win. And, as we all know, the best horse on paper wins 70% of the time.

Who can argue with this guy? He's right all of the time!! He got you HRTV on Comcast, people!!!

Coach, he is running better horses against bad competition in 6 horse races, how much trouble can they get into out there in a 6 horse race?

Have you see the horses that he has been beating, they shouldn't be at the levels that they are at.

Originally Posted by Scav

Coach, he is running better horses against bad competition in 6 horse races, how much trouble can they get into out there in a 6 horse race?

Have you see the horses that he has been beating, they shouldn't be at the levels that they are at.

Scav how many times have you seen a horse take a drop in class from a top trainer and run completely out of the money?

This guy has had two off the board finishes out of 17 starts. That's unbelievable no matter how big the class drop is. It's suspicious as hell.

[SentToStud]

Anyone have numbers for Bennie Stutts? I have my suspicions about the guy.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Scav how many times have you seen a horse take a drop in class from a top trainer and run completely out of the money?

This guy has had two off the board finishes out of 17 starts. That's unbelievable no matter how big the class drop is. It's suspicious as hell.

I understand 'your' suspicion because of your unfamiliarity with these guys. I have followed them for the last 6 years. I am not saying that these guys are saints, but Illinois does have testing, and from all accounts, it is pretty strong. I think they test all winners RIGHT after the race.

Every year Arlington puts up the silks of the leading owner in the lobby, for all to see, Calabrese has his picture taken in front of them daily

Trust me, keep on following it, because in about 3-4 weeks, all these horses are going to be running back, and there will be major scores to be had in the Tri's and P3's, where alot of their money goes in.....

Originally Posted by Scav

I understand 'your' suspicion because of your unfamiliarity with these guys. I have followed them for the last 6 years. I am not saying that these guys are saints, but Illinois does have testing, and from all accounts, it is pretty strong. I think they test all winners RIGHT after the race.

Every year Arlington puts up the silks of the leading owner in the lobby, for all to see, Calabrese has his picture taken in front of them daily

Trust me, keep on following it, because in about 3-4 weeks, all these horses are going to be running back, and there will be major scores to be had in the Tri's and P3's, where alot of their money goes in.....

Scav..you should know that the testing available is not up to speed with advances in medicine.

But really this goes beyond suspicions of doping..it is unbelievable that they're winning at a 70% clip with all that can go wrong in a race, especially with claimers. It's simply naive and shortsighted to pronounce they're winning simply by reading a condition book properly and dropping horses in class. They aren't the only ones who do this and they're doing it with astronomical success that hasn't been seen by the likes of the greatest trainers in the history of the game.

[Cannon Shell]

They have claimed a few off me in the past that I dont think they ever did much with.