Art Wilson: Cali perspective (with Shirreffs, Stute)

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

It's called the Sumitas method.

OOOOOOOOOO

[sumitas]

It's called legitimate scientific data. You all and Shirreffs prefer the old Greek method of who yells the loudest is right.

WRONG

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by sumitas

It's called legitimate scientific data. You all and Shirreffs prefer the old Greek method of who yells the loudest is right.

WRONG

Really? So you're saying that John Shirreffs is famous for shouting down those with differing opinions? That's the way you think he's approached this discussion?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Really? So you're saying that John Shirreffs is famous for shouting down those with differing opinions? That's the way you think he's approached this discussion?

Steve, you have no basis to ask those questions of Sumitas unless you can find a scientist like Jack Knowlton to say that Shirreffs is maybe wrong.

[sumitas]

In some ways yes. And Moss as well in Cali has brought his peresonal track bias to the soap box level as well...imo.

I'd like to thank the new thoughtful menbers of the board for sharing their insights. The vast majority on this board are not interested in discussion, just shouting down and ridiculing those they disagree with. Kind of like Moss and Shirriffs.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by sumitas

In some ways yes. And Moss as well in Cali has brought his presonal track bias to the soap box level as we...imo.

His bias is backed up by millions upons millions sopent in the business. He's earned the right to express the opinion he's formulated.

[sumitas]

Absolutely, but I caution that those are only his opinions. NOT based in fact or any meaningful data he can produce.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Absolutely, but I caution that those are only his opinions. NOT based in fact or any meaningful data he can produce.

But you have the meaningful data in your possession that is irrefutable.. definitive.. debate-deciding? Utterly ridiculous.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by sumitas

In some ways yes. And Moss as well in Cali has brought his peresonal track bias to the soap box level as well...imo.

I'd like to thank the new thoughtful menbers of the board for sharing their insights. The vast majority on this board are not interested in discussion, just shouting down and ridiculing those they disagree with. Kind of like Moss and Shirriffs.

You have no idea what you're talking about in reference to Jerry Moss and John Shirreffs. NONE.

[sumitas]

They've been opposed to the Cali intiative on synths all along. But Moss has consistently been outvoted, thankfully, by the CHRB.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

FTFY

he is our resident horse porn expert though.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by sumitas

It's called legitimate scientific data. You all and Shirreffs prefer the old Greek method of who yells the loudest is right.

WRONG

irony, thy name is sumitas.

[Linny]

I was at the Wood Memorial and War Pass, Spring at Last and Tater Tutt all got hurt. More may have. None of them were vanned off and I doubt that any of them would show up on an injury report.