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Old 05-06-2008, 12:05 PM
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Well, if Big Truck ( another NY Bred ) was 28:1 in the Derby, Icabad should be even money.

Just remember, I touted him in the Albany first.
I like Big Truck... and I have NO idea who would have bet him at 28-1 in the Derby. Seriously.
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:08 PM
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I like Big Truck... and I have NO idea who would have bet him at 28-1 in the Derby. Seriously.
It's the Giacomo factor. Casual fans saw 50-1 in the morning line, and decided they were betting on him before they got to the track.

Also, the name is funny. Like with Imawidlandcrazyguy last year.
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:19 PM
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It's the Giacomo factor. Casual fans saw 50-1 in the morning line, and decided they were betting on him before they got to the track.

Also, the name is funny. Like with Imawidlandcrazyguy last year.
Very true. The average person loves to bet on the longest price they see, so that they can regale their racing friends until the day they die with stories of them betting on "the longshot" (as if there's only one) and it winning. God, I hate those people.
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:37 PM
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El Gato Malo now heading to the Lone Star Park Derby
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:13 PM
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El Gato Malo now heading to the Lone Star Park Derby
Just saw that....West Point changes their mind every 5 minutes...Last night it was The Preakness....Guess they didn't want a second or third place check.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:20 PM
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Just saw that....West Point changes their mind every 5 minutes...Last night it was The Preakness....Guess they didn't want a second or third place check.
They had a better shot at a board hit in Baltimore than in the Lone Star Derby. El Gato Malo could easily end up with no check in Texas. There's maybe 5 ahead of him there that have all gone by since the winter...
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:24 PM
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Very true. The average person loves to bet on the longest price they see, so that they can regale their racing friends until the day they die with stories of them betting on "the longshot" (as if there's only one) and it winning. God, I hate those people.
Did I tell you about the time I had Vision and Verse over Lemon Drop Kid but I just bet Sarava flat in the Belmont. Oh and Volponi in the BC Classic. I was so proud of myself then everyone at my table shows me their bets. Half of them hit the trifecta

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Old 05-06-2008, 06:29 PM
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recapture still possible, but may go to the ohio derby instead. macho again also going to one or the other...riley tuckers name also in the mix for the preakness.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:12 PM
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DRF now reporting that Recapturetheglory WILL go to the Preakness:

"Trainer Louie Roussel said Wednesday that Recapturetheglory will be sent to the May 17 Preakness after spending several days of debating whether or not to go. Recapturetheglory, fifth in the Kentucky Derby on Saturday, will be the only Derby horse other than winner Big Brown to run in the Preakness at Pimlico."

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Old 05-07-2008, 04:55 PM
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Racecar Rhapsody will go too.

I really like this one for 2nd.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:34 PM
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It's the Giacomo factor. Casual fans saw 50-1 in the morning line, and decided they were betting on him before they got to the track.

Also, the name is funny. Like with Imawidlandcrazyguy last year.
Sure, I can buy that argument for a point or two, maybe even four or five. But seriously, HALF of what he legitimately should have been? The Derby win pool is something like $60-70 million, which means there was about a MILLION DOLLARS bet on a "name" if that's the case.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:41 PM
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It was because of the Big Truck/Big Brown confusion. . .
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:42 PM
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It was because of the Big Truck/Big Brown confusion. . .

That's what I think. Nothing else makes sense.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:51 PM
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That's what I think. Nothing else makes sense.
That does make sense. I wonder if they figured it out before the race was over.

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Old 05-06-2008, 01:41 PM
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This looks like a 2 other then and Big Brown.. DrugS I could use Pryo in Super's in this field..lol
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:04 PM
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Am I the only one in the world that thinks Behindatthebar warrants taking a look at?

We all know BB had a dominant performance at the Derby, but we all also know he has bad feet, has run 4 lifetime races, and obviously never run twice in two weeks.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:07 PM
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Am I the only one in the world that thinks Behindatthebar warrants taking a look at?

We all know BB had a dominant performance at the Derby, but we all also know he has bad feet, has run 4 lifetime races, and obviously never run twice in two weeks.
For lower exotics yes. I think he is better than many people think. However I don't see him as a win candidate here.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:00 AM
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I sorta agree with Dutrow. As mentioned in the piece Harlem Rocker could still make the Plate after the Preakness. As Alydeed who finished 2nd in the Preakness did. It's a big jump up from the Withers but he ran by a good horse loose on the lead pretty nonchalantly. It would atleast give the race much needed drama.

In Daily Racing Form, BIG BROWN'S trainer Rick Dutrow was discussing the May 17 Preakness..

Dutrow already is sizing up the prospective opposition for the 1 3/16-mile race. He said "Pletcher's white horse" - Harlem Rocker, the Withers Stakes winner trained by Todd Pletcher - is the only one that concerns him, but otherwise, a horse to upset Big Brown "is going to have to be a really good one."

HARLEM ROCKER is 80% owned by Stronach Stables and 20% by Adena Racing Venture II, the 2nd of 3 syndicate packages of 6 horses offered by Adena Springs.
According to Adena, there are no Canadian owners in the 20% but there sure a lot of fellow bloggers out there who have little pieces of the grey colt.

If Harlem Rocker passes up the Plate Trial, that race will surely be wide open (the Marine Stakes for 3yo's, open company is up next but could have an American-bred winner).
Then, if the Rocker comes for the June 22 Plate after his Preakness attempt, it will make the Plate quite intriguing.
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:53 AM
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I realize this post has absoutely no merit, but strictly hyptothetically speaking:

If the owners thought that the triple crown was too tough of a task for Big Brown to achieve (based more on the 3 races in 5 weeks and his fragile feet, more than the competition of course), how cool would it be to have him stay stabled at Churchill and face Curlin in the Stephen Foster next month?

Obviously they have far more to gain for him to continue to beat up on 3-year olds and possibly achieve legendary status as the first triple crown winner in ages. But for fans wanting a race between the 2 best colts in the country, this is probably the only opportunity for it to happen.

I realize any 3-yo facing older in stakes competition this early in the year is up against it, whether it's Curlin or whomever. But, it's fun to think about.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:03 AM
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I realize this post has absoutely no merit, but strictly hyptothetically speaking:

If the owners thought that the triple crown was too tough of a task for Big Brown to achieve (based more on the 3 races in 5 weeks and his fragile feet, more than the competition of course), how cool would it be to have him stay stabled at Churchill and face Curlin in the Stephen Foster next month?

Obviously they have far more to gain for him to continue to beat up on 3-year olds and possibly achieve legendary status as the first triple crown winner in ages. But for fans wanting a race between the 2 best colts in the country, this is probably the only opportunity for it to happen.

I realize any 3-yo facing older in stakes competition this early in the year is up against it, whether it's Curlin or whomever. But, it's fun to think about.
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