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Old 05-03-2008, 05:53 PM
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I've got to hear about Denis of Cork for another five weeks because of that god damned meaningless junk collecting 3rd.
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Old 05-03-2008, 05:54 PM
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I dunno. . . He looked like he was gaining at the end. . .
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Old 05-03-2008, 05:56 PM
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I dunno. . . He looked like he was gaining at the end. . .
Tale of Ekati was a drunken sailor before the stretch run and he still held for 4th.
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Old 05-03-2008, 06:01 PM
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4 of the first 5 ran very near the lead today. DOC was the only closer who actually closed!! YEs, you'll have 5 more weeks to hear about him.
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Old 05-03-2008, 06:12 PM
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Yeah the BoRail Churchill special will be completely overlooked. No shot.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:29 AM
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I've got to hear about Denis of Cork for another five weeks because of that god damned meaningless junk collecting 3rd.

This might have been a good time to admit you were wrong about Denis of Cork. You knew, or should have known, that it wasn't exactly a stellar group going into the race.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:40 AM
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This might have been a good time to admit you were wrong about Denis of Cork. You knew, or should have known, that it wasn't exactly a stellar group going into the race.
Uh no. The horse still was dusted and more than likely didn't run above a 96 beyer.

Just because this crop is horrendous doesn't mean I have to give this plug a pass.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:49 AM
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Uh no. The horse still was dusted and more than likely didn't run above a 96 beyer.

Just because this crop is horrendous doesn't mean I have to give this plug a pass.

He did a lot better than you said he would on this board....over and over again. I don't think anyone said he was a superstar....but many of us felt that because of the inferior quality of the field he had a chance at what was a solid price.

Once again, he didn't run great, but he ran OK and is a nice horse. Now, I have to revisit the Smooth Air thread.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:51 AM
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He did a lot better than you said he would on this board....over and over again. I don't think anyone said he was a superstar....but many of us felt that because of the inferior quality of the field he had a chance at what was a solid price.

Once again, he didn't run great, but he ran OK and is a nice horse. Now, I have to revisit the Smooth Air thread.
Yeah and most of those people excluded Big Brown in their picks. F.uck them if they think I'm going to apologize for the rest of the field sucking ass.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:54 AM
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Yeah and most of those people excluded Big Brown in their picks. F.uck them if they think I'm going to apologize for the rest of the field sucking ass.

You don't have to apologize.....but you were wrong about Denis of Cork and saying now that he ran poorly and was lucky, which is essentially what you are saying, makes you look silly.

Of course, and I mean this as a compliment, you go for silly quite often ( in a positive way much of the time ).
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:57 AM
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You don't have to apologize.....but you were wrong about Denis of Cork and saying now that he ran poorly and was lucky, which is essentially what you are saying, makes you look silly.
Is it so obvious that DoC ran well rather than just happening to be the horse that ran last?
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:01 AM
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You don't have to apologize.....but you were wrong about Denis of Cork and saying now that he ran poorly and was lucky, which is essentially what you are saying, makes you look silly.

Of course, and I mean this as a compliment, you go for silly quite often ( in a positive way much of the time ).
The thing that really makes me look silly is assuming a few in this race would improve and run about a 95 beyer. The fact of the matter is Eight Belles is probably the only horse that improved significantly and she died doing so.

I'll admit this. Denis of Cork is consistent when you throw out the Illinois Derby. He's consistently decent in a crop of absolute bums.

*throws up*

And I don't mind looking silly. I took a stand and was a little off. I still think this horse needs an absolute blistering early pace to win. Guess we'll have to wait and see if I'm right.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:42 AM
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This might have been a good time to admit you were wrong about Denis of Cork. You knew, or should have known, that it wasn't exactly a stellar group going into the race.
Andy how did you do today with your bets for the derby I hadn't heard or read your thoughts pre race. Did you have this one figured out better than my own pitiful plays today leaving out the filly is just good enough for me to have nightmares for the month of May.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:46 AM
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Andy how did you do today with your bets for the derby I hadn't heard or read your thoughts pre race. Did you have this one figured out better than my own pitiful plays today leaving out the filly is just good enough for me to have nightmares for the month of May.

If you are a DRF Plus member you could see the videos I did with Dan Illman for all the stakes both Friday and Saturday. I actually did better overall than usual but nothing special.

I lost about $100 on the Derby. I was alive to four horses in Derby/Oaks doubles......bigger to Denis of Cork and Pyro and less to Tale of Ekati and Cool Coal Man. I boxed those four in the exacta for a few bucks and keyed Denis of Cork and Pyro in some bigger exactas. Far from my worst overall opinion....but a losing one nonetheless.

I said I wouldn't be surprised when Big Brown won by three or four lengths.....but I also said I would never bet on him.
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:07 AM
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It's horse racing....we're all wrong more than we're right. Nothing wrong with that.

By the way, the most incredible thing about the race, at least from a betting perspective, is that Big Truck was almost half the price of Tale of Ekati. If they were seperate betting interests in a random race on a Thursday at Belmont, Take of Ekati would have been 3:5 to Big Truck's 4:1. What about him did people like? Were people confused by his name starting with Big and didn't bother to see it was followed by Truck and not Brown?

I would like to see a matchup of the confusingly overated fivesome of Big Truck, Z Fortune, Visionaire, Smooth Air and Court Vision. I will say that Stutts seemed like a genuinely nice guy from the ESPN piece. It was cheesy...but he still seemed like an easy guy to root for.

What a great game.
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:13 AM
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It's horse racing....we're all wrong more than we're right. Nothing wrong with that.

By the way, the most incredible thing about the race, at least from a betting perspective, is that Big Truck was almost half the price of Tale of Ekati. If they were seperate betting interests in a random race on a Thursday at Belmont, Take of Ekati would have been 3:5 to Big Truck's 4:1. What about him did people like? Were people confused by his name starting with Big and didn't bother to see it was followed by Truck and not Brown?

I would like to see a matchup of the confusingly overated fivesome of Big Truck, Z Fortune, Visionaire, Smooth Air and Court Vision. I will say that Stutts seemed like a genuinely nice guy from the ESPN piece. It was cheesy...but he still seemed like an easy guy to root for.

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Big Truck was probably the overwhelming favorite in the infield.
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:15 AM
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It's horse racing....we're all wrong more than we're right. Nothing wrong with that.

By the way, the most incredible thing about the race, at least from a betting perspective, is that Big Truck was almost half the price of Tale of Ekati. If they were seperate betting interests in a random race on a Thursday at Belmont, Take of Ekati would have been 3:5 to Big Truck's 4:1. What about him did people like? Were people confused by his name starting with Big and didn't bother to see it was followed by Truck and not Brown?

I would like to see a matchup of the confusingly overated fivesome of Big Truck, Z Fortune, Visionaire, Smooth Air and Court Vision. I will say that Stutts seemed like a genuinely nice guy from the ESPN piece. It was cheesy...but he still seemed like an easy guy to root for.

What a great game.
At the OTB, some chick was like "let's bet on the horse that sounds the slowest", and came up with him. My only explanation is that there were thousands of people that had the same angle and opinion today.
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