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slotdirt · #1 08-07-2006, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

It was truly devestating watching this race from the seats yesterday. Always been a favorite of mine and even my wife came over just to watch Artie, obviously very disappointing. Sad way to see him end what has been a great ride. He will always have a BC win on his resume. Not sure why people continue to diss him. Sure hes been a beaten favorite on many occasions but its not his fault the public (including me) goes overboard for him.

I wont remember that race from yesterday, I will remember that BC Mile victory.

I will remember last year's CompUSA Dixie...or this year's version....or the 1,000 other times Artie Schiller was the best horse in a race and didn't win.

Gander · #2 08-07-2006, 08:27 AM

Remember what you want about him but he is a valid BC winner and may have been the year before too if Migliore wasnt riding him with a broken arm.

Gander · #3 08-07-2006, 10:09 AM

Something had to be very wrong with Artie yesterday. Gomez said he had a perfect trip and was just empty at the quarter pole. I have never seen Artie empty at the quarter pole in any of his races. Hes lost a lot of tough ones, but hes always been very competitive, even in defeats.
Why he was that far back off slow fractions like that makes me wonder too. He has the speed to have led yesterday, instead of loping a few lengths behind a horse who has proven to be "remarkably" game when allowed to set easy fractions.

#4 08-07-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Something had to be very wrong with Artie yesterday. Gomez said he had a perfect trip and was just empty at the quarter pole. I have never seen Artie empty at the quarter pole in any of his races. Hes lost a lot of tough ones, but hes always been very competitive, even in defeats.
Why he was that far back off slow fractions like that makes me wonder too. He has the speed to have led yesterday, instead of loping a few lengths behind a horse who has proven to be "remarkably" game when allowed to set easy fractions.

Tim you are a friend but I really want you to read over this thread and remember it the next time you go to bash a horse. I KNOW that something is wrong with Artie because he would never run that poorly and the front wraps were a bad omen. I will also remember his great races. But you will note that I am not bashing him. In this particular case because you know the connections and like the horse you are not bashing a short priced disappointment. Next time the shoe is on the other foot try and act the same way ok?
Artie Schiller has always been a talented horse who ran some HUGE races. He may have lacked a little in consistency, but when it was his day, boy could he be special. If he is indeed done, I'm sure he will make a fine sire someplace and at age 5, hes raced in 4 different campaigns and has earned the fine life he will get.

Gander · #5 08-07-2006, 10:21 AM

I didnt bash Flower Alley on Saturday. Obviously he was short, Pletcher said he wasnt 100%. But also something must have went wrong there too, as he had a nice trip but when asked for run he had nothing. Kind of a similar race to Artie in a lot of respects. So yes, I remembered and wasnt one of the guys on here who rushed to bash this horse.

Gander · #6 08-07-2006, 10:28 AM

In all honesty, even if Artie was 100%, Remarkable News would have been very tough to reel in, given the fact he was allowed to set those ridiculously slow fractions for a horse of his caliber.

Not sure if Artie's problems were the reason Garret took back early off slow fractions, or was that his planned strategy. If it was his strategy I think he misjudged the race. Remarkable News still would have won in my opinion.

#7 08-07-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

I didnt bash Flower Alley on Saturday. Obviously he was short, Pletcher said he wasnt 100%. But also something must have went wrong there too, as he had a nice trip but when asked for run he had nothing. Kind of a similar race to Artie in a lot of respects. So yes, I remembered and wasnt one of the guys on here who rushed to bash this horse.

The more hours that go by without a press quote from Todd( you know damn well that at least 100 guys had to be askiing him for quotes for publications) about Flower Alley's race, the more nervous I am becoming that we have seen the last of him. Even not 100% hes NEVER gonna run like that with no excuse. He was perfectly placed right off of moderate fractions and just never ran an inch. Johnny knew he was empty on the turn and was beating him like drum. This is a tremendously game animal. Eeven when he was being rushed into the Tri Crown fray his ARk Derby always stuck out in my mind as an example of his gameness. You would have bet 10 grand at the 1/8th pole that day that after Alex had motored by him that he was gonna get swallowed up by Andromeda's hero for the place but when Andromeda came to him, even though he was exhausted, he dug in very gamely to hold the place and you could see him fighting hard. No way was he just "short" on saturday. Something had to have been up and the lack of talk from his camp tells me something went wrong.

Gander · #8 08-07-2006, 10:41 AM

Well let us know if you hear something Mike. That performance was equally disappointing to watch. Still hoping for a great BC Classic between Flower Alley, Lava Man and Bernardini. Heck, possibly BG Cat!

One can dream cant they?