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Old 04-25-2008, 07:00 PM
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The Suns are a Much more capable team of beating San Antonio
this year. Shaq is much better on Duncan than anything
last year.

One HUGE problem is Nash. He is way too slow for Parker.
How many frggn layups do you give Parker before you decide
to switch. Nash just cant stay with Parker. San Antonio
is making so may easy baskets from simple pick and roll
penetration
. Then Shaq and Amare have to really watch
helping out because they get into foul trouble quickly.
Of course they do when everyone and their mother is penetrating.

So the very first line of defense, trying to stop the other
team from penetrating, breaks down immediately for the Suns. This is why
I like PG's that can play D.

Put someone else on Parker.
Dont let Nash get near Parker late in the game.
Ginobili is also getting to the basket way too easily.
Nash has always been a liability on defense. But Phoenix doesnt play good help defense mainly because Shaq is not very mobile anymore, Stoudamire is always out of position, Barbosa would rather release on the break and they miss Marion who could guard almost anyone on the court. Shaq and company havent really done much with Duncan who is averaging 29 and 16 on 54% shooting. What they should do is lay Parker out a few times.
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:48 PM
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Nash has always been a liability on defense. But Phoenix doesnt play good help defense mainly because Shaq is not very mobile anymore, Stoudamire is always out of position, Barbosa would rather release on the break and they miss Marion who could guard almost anyone on the court. Shaq and company havent really done much with Duncan who is averaging 29 and 16 on 54% shooting. What they should do is lay Parker out a few times.
Marion is great in the regular season.
But playoff time was choke time for him.
Problem is that Duncan just murders Amare.
Shaq got 40 put on him by Duncan while on the bench
and then in foul trouble last quarter.
They are not giving Shaq any help though.
But I guess they dont help much on the whole anyway.

The Phoenix team is very capable.
I think D'Antoni is setting the right mental
tone for once in that he is not giving up.
And they have layed Parker down.
Got him seeing double after the first game.
Shaq body blocked him into the wood 2nd game.
They have hit him pretty good without quite going
flagrant. Ginobili, who is a great actor, got very close
to sending Barbosa away (Barbosa swung at him on the
ground). The league reviewed it and decided no suspension.
I thought Barbosa might be gone.

I am still waiting to see how the NBA will handle
having the Spurs in the finals. I dont see how they
cannot try and get SA out.

The world wants Boston against LA. The ratings
and the NBA want this. I am not a conspiracy guy,
but I cant see how Stern can possibly be pleased
with San Antonio in the Finals again.

The NBA does not advertise good basketball, why the heck would
they want a real team in the Finals. Boston supplies that
with viewership, with dunks, and bravado. The Spurs dont shoot off their
mouths enough, or dunk enough. Duncan can whine, but he
is not going to stick his massive hand in his face and do some
Soulja boy dance. He will not call Shaq an idiot
or try whistling while Shaq
is shooting fouls. Spurs are just not Jerry Springer enough
for the masses. Too little playground also. Way too many
normal people who happen to be good basketball players.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:01 PM
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Marion is great in the regular season.
But playoff time was choke time for him.
Problem is that Duncan just murders Amare.
Shaq got 40 put on him by Duncan while on the bench
and then in foul trouble last quarter.
They are not giving Shaq any help though.
But I guess they dont help much on the whole anyway.

The Phoenix team is very capable.
I think D'Antoni is setting the right mental
tone for once in that he is not giving up.
And they have layed Parker down.
Got him seeing double after the first game.
Shaq body blocked him into the wood 2nd game.
They have hit him pretty good without quite going
flagrant. Ginobili, who is a great actor, got very close
to sending Barbosa away (Barbosa swung at him on the
ground). The league reviewed it and decided no suspension.
I thought Barbosa might be gone.

I am still waiting to see how the NBA will handle
having the Spurs in the finals. I dont see how they
cannot try and get SA out.

The world wants Boston against LA. The ratings
and the NBA want this. I am not a conspiracy guy,
but I cant see how Stern can possibly be pleased
with San Antonio in the Finals again.

The NBA does not advertise good basketball, why the heck would
they want a real team in the Finals. Boston supplies that
with viewership, with dunks, and bravado. The Spurs dont shoot off their
mouths enough, or dunk enough. Duncan can whine, but he
is not going to stick his massive hand in his face and do some
Soulja boy dance. He will not call Shaq an idiot
or try whistling while Shaq
is shooting fouls. Spurs are just not Jerry Springer enough
for the masses. Too little playground also. Way too many
normal people who happen to be good basketball players.
I disagree that Phoenix is capable. They cant guard inside out. If they play tight perimeter defense, the guards of SA carve them up. They know they cant leave Ginobilli or even Finley open on the perimeter and as a result cant offer much help on Duncan who can find the open man. The Suns will lose tonight unless Stern calls for the Duncan in foul trouble scenario to help the ratings.

Boston is a good team
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:08 PM
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Phoenix is not good at all. They had the worse record of the western conference playoff teams against teams in the western conference.

I am starting to wonder if Detroit is in trouble.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:20 PM
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I disagree that Phoenix is capable. They cant guard inside out. If they play tight perimeter defense, the guards of SA carve them up. They know they cant leave Ginobilli or even Finley open on the perimeter and as a result cant offer much help on Duncan who can find the open man. The Suns will lose tonight unless Stern calls for the Duncan in foul trouble scenario to help the ratings.

Boston is a good team
You picked the Spurs 4-3 in a great series?
Ya crazy man. I think that makes Phoenix capable.
Unless they both are crappy.

And I think there are a lot worse teams in the West
than Phoenix.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:07 PM
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You picked the Spurs 4-3 in a great series?
Ya crazy man. I think that makes Phoenix capable.
Unless they both are crappy.

And I think there are a lot worse teams in the West
than Phoenix.
I was wrong. If you watch them you can see they just cant stop anybody. They are done, Kerr is done and D' Antoni will get another year and then be done. Nash, Shaq and Grant Hill will soon be done. The really are just the Sac Kings of the late 90's.
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Old 04-26-2008, 12:47 AM
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Phoenix is not good on D.

But the Spurs shot the hell out of the ball.
This is the best shooting game they have had
all year, numbers be damned. This is a playoff
game and they just hit all of their jumpers. The game
becomes very easy if most of your shots go down.
You look like a great team and Popovich looks like
a genius.

That is the bottom line of game 3.
Spurs shot extraordinarily well.
I have never seen Parker make this many
jump shots. He drove them silly game 2. They
back off to shut down the drive, he hits everything.

Shaq against Duncan is irrelevant with Parker doing
as he pleases.

The PG's in the West make the East look pitiful
at this position (D.Wade playing hurtthis year).
Alston returns and McGrady
gets to actually play his game, Houston wins.
Houston is so much better with this guy.

Maybe Rose should be #1 in the draft,
even if it takes a year to get acclimated.
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Old 04-26-2008, 03:36 AM
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I have never seen Parker make this many
jump shots.

I have...last June in fact!! Made a ton of them...finals MVP I believe...his outside shooting played a big role in that.

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Old 04-26-2008, 08:26 PM
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Phoenix is not good on D.

But the Spurs shot the hell out of the ball.
This is the best shooting game they have had
all year, numbers be damned. This is a playoff
game and they just hit all of their jumpers. The game
becomes very easy if most of your shots go down.
You look like a great team and Popovich looks like
a genius.

That is the bottom line of game 3.
Spurs shot extraordinarily well.
I have never seen Parker make this many
jump shots. He drove them silly game 2. They
back off to shut down the drive, he hits everything.

Shaq against Duncan is irrelevant with Parker doing
as he pleases.

The PG's in the West make the East look pitiful
at this position (D.Wade playing hurtthis year).
Alston returns and McGrady
gets to actually play his game, Houston wins.
Houston is so much better with this guy.

Maybe Rose should be #1 in the draft,
even if it takes a year to get acclimated.
It is not hard to shoot well when no one guards you.

D Wade is not a PG
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