Dutrow's Confidence in Big Brown

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I Know.. not another Big Brown thread!! But I thought the quotes from Dutrow in the throughbredtimes.com article were rather interesting. I've never heard a trainer speak this confidently about his horse before the derby. ( I know, it's trainer-speak.. but it's usually more optimistic/positive.)
Here are some of this quotes:



"It’s a horse race and I have the best horse in the race. It’s that simple,” Dutrow said. “We’re going to Kentucky to win; anything less than that is not going to be OK with us. There’s such good karma going around the stable now that I don’t see how he can get beat.”

“I’ve never been in this kind of spot before but I don’t feel any pressure, not as long as my horse is going good,” Dutrow said. “I’m having fun. This is what I was born to do.”


“It’s an honor to be a favorite now and he’ll be the favorite on Derby day—I can guarantee that,” Dutrow said. “We’re a betting stable and we’ll make sure he’s the favorite.”


http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...g-workout.aspx

He knows so much it was bad weather that led to Big Brown even stepping foot on dirt.

[ntheiroff]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

He knows so much it was bad weather that led to Big Brown even stepping foot on dirt.

Craig,

That is exactly what I mentioned to Pickwick several days ago.

[blackthroatedwind]

I actually enjoy Dutrow's bravado. Racing can be a game of unparalled characters.....and Dutrow definitely fits the bill. He makes it more fun in this respect. Let him brag away.......it makes a good story.

Dutrow thinks a LOT of horses he runs can't lose. If you like Big brown, and are betting him, you better hope this is one of the occasional times he is right.

[jms62]

Never heard such confidence and speaking in absolutes from a trainer going into the derby BUT could this be Dutrow securing a big paycheck for BB's connections and himself from UPS as a sponsor by selling Big Brown as a modern day Secretariat ? Sorry I am so jaded but his actions seem a bit curious. Then again Big Brown may get to eat from that special oat bucket, the one with such powers that you are so sure he will win you bet 160 K on him...

[slotdirt]

Did he read the Bobby Frankel script from 2003? Sounds like it to me.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I actually enjoy Dutrow's bravado. Racing can be a game of unparalled characters.....and Dutrow definitely fits the bill. He makes it more fun in this respect. Let him brag away.......it makes a good story.

Dutrow thinks a LOT of horses he runs can't lose. If you like Big brown, and are betting him, you better hope this is one of the occasional times he is right.

I agree.

I went to see First Saturday in May last night and that is what made that movie and this industry as a whole so interesting. Life would be dull if we were all the same.

[slotdirt]

I don't know, Sightseek, I saw the same movie you did last night. Where was the Bravada in that? I thought I saw six pretty humble guys going for the ride of their lives.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I don't know, Sightseek, I saw the same movie you did last night. Where was the Bravada in that? I thought I saw six pretty humble guys going for the ride of their lives.

I meant how different all of the people in the industry are, not that they all have an abundance of bravado.

[slotdirt]

Gotcha.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

He knows so much it was bad weather that led to Big Brown even stepping foot on dirt.

So, your assumption is that he never galloped/worked the horse on the dirt and thus had no idea whether the horse could handle it or not?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

So, your assumption is that he never galloped/worked the horse on the dirt and thus had no idea whether the horse could handle it or not?

Isn't it more about the fact that he entered him in a turf race?

[the_fat_man]

Makes perfect sense without having to read anything into it. The horse is fragile; he hasn't run in months; why not put him on the surface, 1st time back, that he's already won on? Doesn't mean the trainer is clueless.

If he wins impressively on the turf (the field wasn't much on either surface) would it be a HUGE stretch for Dutrow to run him in the Floriday Derby?

More than, say, Motion running Adriano in the FoY off of his impressive turf win?

[ELA]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Isn't it more about the fact that he entered him in a turf race?

That might be the fact. However, if the turf race goes, how does that play out? If he wins big, Dutrow has options. I don't know what he would have done, and nobody could predict that. On the other hand, if he loses, well, who knows. Maybe the horse doesn't progress, move forward, hold up, etc. The world is made up of what if's as we all know. It's hypothetical. I don't know if I would call it luck or dumb luck for that matter.

Regardless, while your point is well taken, like him or not, Dutrow is no dummy. If it played out differently, he might not be sitting on the favorite for the Derby, but he is in fact right now.

Eric

[Cannon Shell]

Dutrow loves every horse he runs. This is just getting reported because it's the Derby and everything gets reported. He is actually a funny guy who tends to say whatever is on his mind at the time.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Why don't his horses get tired? I mean,people,most of us watch these races 3-6 days a week...His horses don't really get tired like other guys horses...Give him whatever stakes horse you want,and when they go to him they won't get as tired.I'm surprised he is saying this stuff going into this race.He is gunna have the hugest target on him,and it ain't 10 horses.It's like 18-20 horses.If guys really want to do it,then they can get him beat. If he gets an inside post,and has any trouble at all getting out of that gate,then they can seal him in pretty damn good.