Eight Belles & Proud Spell

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think you're missing Phil's point King. Not to speak for him, but I think he meant more in terms of earnings against males. A case could be made that the fillies earnings shouldn't count, unless the earnings were against males, since the filly races are restricted to sex.

I agree. Winning money in restricted races for fillies is not in the same league as graded earnings in races open to any entrant. It is outrageous that these 2 could bump some horses that battled in open stakes.

[cmorioles]

2yo races should count. Filly races should not. All horses from the Derby crop are eligible to compete in the 2yo races. All horses from the same crop are not eligible to compete in filly races.

I think sprints should be excluded as well, but that is a tougher sell. If you exclude by distance, you could argue turf and sythetic races shouldn't count either. (Side note: Will they actually call it the BC Dirt Mile this year?)

[Danzig]

i think you'd see the AE list occur long before filly graded races are taken out of the rules.

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think you'd see the AE list occur long before filly graded races are taken out of the rules.

Filly graded earnings discriminate against colts because they are not allowed to enter the races. A law suit should settle this nonsense and I'd like to see one from the owners of the excluded colts in this years derby if the fillies bump them.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Filly graded earnings discriminate against colts because they are not allowed to enter the races. A law suit should settle this nonsense and I'd like to see one from the owners of the excluded colts in this years derby if the fillies bump them.

What grounds would you sue them for? Bad judgement?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

2yo races should count. Filly races should not. All horses from the Derby crop are eligible to compete in the 2yo races. All horses from the same crop are not eligible to compete in filly races.

I think sprints should be excluded as well, but that is a tougher sell. If you exclude by distance, you could argue turf and sythetic races shouldn't count either. (Side note: Will they actually call it the BC Dirt Mile this year?)

Maybe they can change the name of the Oaks to the Female Derby?

[Linny]

Young Ladies Derby.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Maybe they can change the name of the Oaks to the Female Derby?

I take it you don't agree?

[sumitas]

I'mnot much for the old Clintonesque affirmative action which is emobodied in this stupid Churchill Downs policy for graded stakes. It just lessons the derby, which is ok, because it's over rated anyway.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I take it you don't agree?

I do. Restricted races are restricted races. They shouldnt count.

[sumitas]

You'd think. And they said Cali is the home of fruits and nuts. If the flakey owner wants to take advantage of a loophole I guess he can but it's against the history of the KD and shows no respect for the sport or the legendary race whatsoever.