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Old 04-13-2008, 02:23 PM
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i do not understand your feelings towards cowboy cal
maybe the other 2, but cowboy cal ?
sit 3-6, get first run on the leaders, jv opens him up, closers cant get to him
He's a turf horse - bred primarily for turf and all of his good races have been on some form of turf. I know, I know. . . his race on dirt was his debut so it may not be indicative of his true ability on dirt. But, I'm not willing to bank on a Giant's Causeway taking to dirt when he's unproven on it. He's also not very fast (figs may not be as accurate because they were on turf/poly). Even if he did run as well on dirt as he does on grass/rubber there are a bunch of horses that have proven to be much better than him. His odds will be vastly overlaid because he's a Pletcher/Johnny V. and because he got 2nd in a G1 on a surface that is nothing like the one at CD.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:29 PM
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I disagree about the bias, it was closer strong for the first couple days, yesterday speed did pretty well.

I don't know what to say about this reference of Cowboy Cal to Cowtown Cat.

Don't you think Cowboy Cal could do some damage in the turf, where he belongs? Cowtown Cat hasn't won a race since I don't think, couldn't even win at Morty Downs
The fact that speed did well does not a bias make.

On turf, sure Cowboy Cal could make some noise.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:40 PM
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Wow, I really have figured out why PG likes Cowboy Cal so much....

Not only is he sired by Giant's Causeway....

But he is very closely related to Commontator in his tail-female family.

PG's favorite stallion and his favorite active race horse!
lol yes
you know it.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:44 PM
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The fact that speed did well does not a bias make.

On turf, sure Cowboy Cal could make some noise.
i know... giants causeway did nothing on dirt.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:46 PM
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The fact that speed did well does not a bias make.

On turf, sure Cowboy Cal could make some noise.
You are right, it wasn't a bias per say, but speed was alot better then normal yesterday.

They still have a real bad rail problem there, first three paths are absolutely quicksand...
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:47 PM
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i know... giants causeway did nothing on dirt.
Yeah, that's super relevant.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:47 PM
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Yeah, that's super relevant.
ok, then yea... storm cat never did anything on dirt...
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:48 PM
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what makes him only a turf horse ? lol because he has beem very very good on it ? this makes no sense to me
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It's not what they did, it's what their progeny do.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:49 PM
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what makes him only a turf horse ? lol because he has beem very very good on it ? this makes no sense to me
You doing what you do makes no sense to everyone, yet we don't try to figure it out.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:50 PM
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You doing what you do makes no sense to everyone, yet we don't try to figure it out.
why is he only a turf horse ? explain it to me
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:53 PM
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i know... giants causeway did nothing on dirt.
...you mean other than getting beat a head in a Breeders' Cup Classic?
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:55 PM
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...you mean other than getting beat a head in a Breeders' Cup Classic?
i was being sarcastic... i loved him and bet him win/place that day. heartbreaking loss for me, but not for america i guess
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:56 PM
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i was being sarcastic... i loved him and bet him win/place that day. heartbreaking loss for me, but not for america i guess
So, let me get this right. You had GC and the rest of America had Tiznow?
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:58 PM
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So, let me get this right. You had GC and the rest of America had Tiznow?
Wasn't GC a Euro? Think that's what he means. Everyone in America was rooting for Tiznow.
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:59 PM
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So, let me get this right. You had GC and the rest of America had Tiznow?
lol no... dident durkin call it " and tiznow does it for america"
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:00 PM
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Wasn't GC a Euro? Think that's what he means. Everyone in America was rooting for Tiznow.
It was sarcasm. I was trying to show PG that his sarcasm doesn't really shine through on a message board. People tend to take what you write for what it is.
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ok, then yea... storm cat never did anything on dirt...
Except get beat a head in the BC Juvenile...I love Cowboy Cal.......................In the Crown Royal on Oaks day.
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:02 PM
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Except get beat a head in the BC Juvenile...I love Cowboy Cal.......................In the Crown Royal on Oaks day.
wait the stormcat comment was sarcasim also
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:10 PM
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i was being sarcastic... i loved him and bet him win/place that day. heartbreaking loss for me, but not for america i guess
It was heartbreaking for me too. I was on Lemon Drop Kid. That was the lone downer on my best personal day at a racetrack..


Sarcastic, eh? Your humor is too sophisticated..
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