W/E BSF's: Blue Grass 92; Arky 103 (!?)

Cajungator26 · #1 04-13-2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

When I saw that Assmussen was at Oaklawn instead of Keeneland (to get his picture took with the winner of the prestigious Bluegrass stakes) I knew Pyro was a no go.

I thought the Wood Memorial was a terrible race.
but the only race that looked respectable was the Santa Anita Derby.

You weren't impressed with the Florida Derby at all?

lostcode · #2 04-13-2008, 08:42 AM

What do the they call a doctor who finishes last in his class.... A DOCTOR.

I just want a competitive race. I didn't bet on Giacomo, but I enjoyed that derb stretch run with 5 horses having a chance in midstretch, much more than smarty Jones and Lion Heart going 1-2 all the way around or Barbaro romping.

cmorioles · #3 04-13-2008, 08:46 AM

I gave the Blue Grass a little higher, a 95, with a pace figure of 104. The Arkansas Derby I came up with 94 and 114 pace figure.

AeWingnut · #4 04-13-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

I gave the Blue Grass a little higher, a 95, with a pace figure of 104. The Arkansas Derby I came up with 94 and 114 pace figure.

I thought they went pretty quick early but no one except Z Fortune came running and Gayego had plenty left.

Who do you like better Cowboy Cal or Z Fortune? I like Z Fortune. I feel he was compromised by post position.

Danzig · #5 04-13-2008, 09:01 AM

post position wasn't great, but i think z fortune had ample opportunity to pass gayego, and couldn't get it done.

2Hot4TV · #6 04-13-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

post position wasn't great, but i think z fortune had ample opportunity to pass gayego, and couldn't get it done.

And you still dont see that horses that train and run on Synthetics have more gas in the tank? I think this is the reason Pyro was at Keenland.

The first 4 finishers a Oaklawn were from synthetic tracks,,,

Danzig · #7 04-13-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

And you still dont see that horses that train and run on Synthetics have more gas in the tank? I think this is the reason Pyro was at Keenland.

The first 4 finishers a Oaklawn were from synthetic tracks,,,

z fortune is from synthetic? since when? he's done his running all spring at fair grounds and oaklawn. my pal charlie last ran at fairgrounds.

and what about adriano? his one start on dirt he was up the track.

there are no hard and fast rules for this stuff. some horses can run on both, some can't. some can go poly to dirt but not many seem to be able to go from a good run on dirt to a good run back on poly-yankee bravo is a good example of that.
then there's tiago-hasn't won a whole bunch in cali has he? but then they put him on dirt, he wins a grade two.

i think pyro was at keeneland because z fortune needed the money, and a placing in a million dollar race gets him in the gate next month. pyro didn't need the money, and the bc classic later his year is on the awt. why not run him there, see what he can do?

Benny Leger · #8 04-16-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

And you still dont see that horses that train and run on Synthetics have more gas in the tank? I think this is the reason Pyro was at Keenland.

The first 4 finishers a Oaklawn were from synthetic tracks,,,

I totally agree with your reasoning as to why Assmussen went to KEE with Pyro. IMO A "fitter" colt with fresher legs heading to the Derby was his goal ... But I seriously doubt Ass was happy with 10th. I believe it was 1957 since a horse ran worse than 5th in his last prep and came back to win the KD (according to Steve Haskin on "ATR" ) Adriano had a nice race on the poly in the Lanes End. Should be running in the last 3/8ths. Handling the nuttyness of Derby Day is a huge question. My choice unless EP rides and erases all value.