Any respect for Pyro now?

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Won't he have to suddenly get a lot quicker than he has been so far? I don't think the pace is going to be quite as hot as is being suggested.

Provided neither connections are going to change tactics in the Derby, I see War Pass and Big Brown as being one dimensional. Both are also very fast. They could settle into a rhythm, which can happen when there are two horses on the lead as opposed to a battle, but so far neither have shown an ability to do that with another horse alongside of them. So if they do settle down a bit, then a horse like Recapturetheglory becomes a pace factor with their stated of intentions of going to the front.

But in the end, I just can't see Big Brown and War Pass on the front-end going :47 seconds to the half.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Provided neither connections are going to change tactics in the Derby, I see War Pass and Big Brown as being one dimensional. Both are also very fast. They could settle into a rhythm, which can happen when there are two horses on the lead as opposed to a battle, but so far neither have shown an ability to do that with another horse alongside of them. So if they do settle down a bit, then a horse like Recapturetheglory becomes a pace factor with their stated of intentions of going to the front.

But in the end, I just can't see Big Brown and War Pass on the front-end going :47 seconds to the half.

no one can except horsey.... i mean i keep saying 45 and change, but really they could go crazy 44 and change or 45 flat.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Didn't Big Brown sit outside of the pacesetter in his allowance win? He had to be on the lead last time with that post.

ok then he sits, someone goes with war pass, they wont let the 2 yr old champ go out and go 23-48, seeya

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Didn't Big Brown sit outside of the pacesetter in his allowance win? He had to be on the lead last time with that post.

Good point. I think he's most effective having good pace presence, but if they do settle a bit, then yea, the pace could slowdown a touch. So many jocks are War Emblem-shy though. When someone tries to back-down in the Kentucky Derby, they react and take it to 'em. It's really difficult to win the roses wire-to-wire.

[SOREHOOF]

Totally agree D Hoss. I guess I don't see Big Brown as the need the lead speedball everyone else seems too. War pass should hold on longer if this is truly a weak crop. Bob Black Jack reminds me of Hard Spun more than the rest of these.

[SOREHOOF]

Hard Spun had more stamina in his pedigree but funny things happen on the track.

[SOREHOOF]

Especially on the 1'st sat. in May!!