4/5 (HAW): Illinois Derby (Gr. II)

[favoritetrick]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

DofC should CRUSH these. . . but i'm starting to get off his bandwagon. . .

Not feeling good about Denis of Cork - what I'm hearing second hand from Carroll is that this is not his race choice. His hands are tied - he doesn't listen to the Warrens and the horse is taken away from him, he follows orders and the horse runs bad there and he's to blame.

Besides, he doesn't need to win this race. A 3rd place finish would give him $40,000 and lift his earnings to $190K, which should be sufficient to make the field.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by favoritetrick

Not feeling good about Denis of Cork - what I'm hearing second hand from Carroll is that this is not his race choice. His hands are tied - he doesn't listen to the Warrens and the horse is taken away from him, he follows orders and the horse runs bad there and he's to blame.

Besides, he doesn't need to win this race. A 3rd place finish would give him $40,000 and lift his earnings to $190K, which should be sufficient to make the field.

Interesting stuff. I think Steve has pretty much said the same thing about DoC.

I am looking for Atoned to run big.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by favoritetrick

Not feeling good about Denis of Cork - what I'm hearing second hand from Carroll is that this is not his race choice. His hands are tied - he doesn't listen to the Warrens and the horse is taken away from him, he follows orders and the horse runs bad there and he's to blame.

Besides, he doesn't need to win this race. A 3rd place finish would give him $40,000 and lift his earnings to $190K, which should be sufficient to make the field.

Why, thank you Favorite Trick

Though I would think the horse needs to win if they want to go the the Big Dance

The race is unbettable, to me

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Mike

Why, thank you Favorite Trick

Though I would think the horse needs to win if they want to go the the Big Dance

The race is unbettable, to me

Why would he need to win in order to go? If he runs a decent race and cashes a check that guarantees him a spot in the gate, why wouldn't they go?

[Mike]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Why would he need to win in order to go? If he runs a decent race and cashes a check that guarantees him a spot in the gate, why wouldn't they go?

They could still go for the fun and hoopla, but ...



...you know what? I stand corrected. I was thinking Dennis of Cork hadn't run since late last fall, but he ran in February

I'll still pass the race wagering, but if Dennis is within two lengths at the finish Saturday I'd say go to the Derby, too

[Scav]

I think Albarado's jump was more about Carroll wanting a two race committment, but don't quote me on that...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Scav

I think Albarado's jump was more about Carroll wanting a two race committment, but don't quote me on that...

Or about not telling Frankel to f*** off.