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Old 03-31-2008, 10:29 PM
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:30 PM
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:32 PM
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DofC should CRUSH these. . . but i'm starting to get off his bandwagon. . .
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:29 PM
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DofC should CRUSH these. . . but i'm starting to get off his bandwagon. . .
Not feeling good about Denis of Cork - what I'm hearing second hand from Carroll is that this is not his race choice. His hands are tied - he doesn't listen to the Warrens and the horse is taken away from him, he follows orders and the horse runs bad there and he's to blame.

Besides, he doesn't need to win this race. A 3rd place finish would give him $40,000 and lift his earnings to $190K, which should be sufficient to make the field.
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:57 PM
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Not feeling good about Denis of Cork - what I'm hearing second hand from Carroll is that this is not his race choice. His hands are tied - he doesn't listen to the Warrens and the horse is taken away from him, he follows orders and the horse runs bad there and he's to blame.

Besides, he doesn't need to win this race. A 3rd place finish would give him $40,000 and lift his earnings to $190K, which should be sufficient to make the field.
Interesting stuff. I think Steve has pretty much said the same thing about DoC.

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Old 04-02-2008, 03:41 PM
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Not feeling good about Denis of Cork - what I'm hearing second hand from Carroll is that this is not his race choice. His hands are tied - he doesn't listen to the Warrens and the horse is taken away from him, he follows orders and the horse runs bad there and he's to blame.

Besides, he doesn't need to win this race. A 3rd place finish would give him $40,000 and lift his earnings to $190K, which should be sufficient to make the field.

Why, thank you Favorite Trick

Though I would think the horse needs to win if they want to go the the Big Dance

The race is unbettable, to me
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:44 PM
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Why, thank you Favorite Trick

Though I would think the horse needs to win if they want to go the the Big Dance

The race is unbettable, to me
Why would he need to win in order to go? If he runs a decent race and cashes a check that guarantees him a spot in the gate, why wouldn't they go?
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:50 PM
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Why would he need to win in order to go? If he runs a decent race and cashes a check that guarantees him a spot in the gate, why wouldn't they go?

They could still go for the fun and hoopla, but ...



...you know what? I stand corrected. I was thinking Dennis of Cork hadn't run since late last fall, but he ran in February

I'll still pass the race wagering, but if Dennis is within two lengths at the finish Saturday I'd say go to the Derby, too
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:26 PM
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I think Albarado's jump was more about Carroll wanting a two race committment, but don't quote me on that...
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I think Albarado's jump was more about Carroll wanting a two race committment, but don't quote me on that...
Or about not telling Frankel to f*** off.
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:32 PM
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IT IS FINE. he is a bigger mush then you are...
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Still stand by your statement?
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Old 04-05-2008, 05:07 PM
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i threw him out, but had the wrong horse on top
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:24 AM
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There are three 8.5f races at Hawthorne on Saturday before the 9f Illinois Derby.
I think it is unwise to settle on how you are going to play this race until you see the results of those three races and can better determine how the track is playing that day.
As Scav seemed to suggest, it seems that the Hawthorne course sometimes plays slightly differently on Illinois Derby day than it does at other times of the meet.........especially if the horses have to contend with ostrich turds in the stretch, as they have in years past.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:55 AM
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Ostrich turds... that's priceless miraj...

DoCork's recent works AT CHURCHILL... look like Carroll trying to put a little speed in him so he won't close from way way back... Think it's his to lose..
Atoned had a good one first off layoff but just gave out... should be pretty tight for this one... Real Appeal is my value horse 11/24 was a good race.. jumped start and 8 wide???? and then a nice run in Tex Heritage off break...
nice recent work at FG and then under the spires...
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look like Carroll trying to put a little speed in him so he won't close from way way back....
Even though he was almost 20 lengths off the pace with four furlongs to go in the Southwest - he was still in mid-pack, in front of more than half of the rest of the field.

Sacred Journey - who is better suited to quarter horse distances than two turn route races......had run off to such an insane margin through such a strong pace that it made everyone from the 4th place finisher back appear to be doing more closing than they really were.
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:08 PM
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There are three 8.5f races at Hawthorne on Saturday before the 9f Illinois Derby.
I think it is unwise to settle on how you are going to play this race until you see the results of those three races and can better determine how the track is playing that day.
As Scav seemed to suggest, it seems that the Hawthorne course sometimes plays slightly differently on Illinois Derby day than it does at other times of the meet.........especially if the horses have to contend with ostrich turds in the stretch, as they have in years past.
Are they having the ostrich racing again, those are pretty classic right there
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This race is not exactly packed with speed, on a track which can go speed crazy overnight. It's that reason why I cannot toss Golden Spikes after looking at the race. Otherwise, he's holding something similar to the O2X figure pattern and is sitting on a massive regression.
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:03 PM
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This race is not exactly packed with speed, on a track which can go speed crazy overnight. It's that reason why I cannot toss Golden Spikes after looking at the race. Otherwise, he's holding something similar to the O2X figure pattern and is sitting on a massive regression.
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