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03-23-2008, 10:19 PM
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What exactly is your idea of "relaxing" by the way? Encasing the colt in a Plaster-of-Paris cast and hiring Drillbit Taylor to guard him 24/7 until Arlington opens? Quote:
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03-23-2008, 10:38 PM
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03-23-2008, 11:20 PM
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They don't have to force Polinus into this, instead they could take their time. It is such a novel idea to try and be patient with a good horse. It isn't like this horse is seasoned and has 8 races under his belt. SA Derby will be his 5th race I think. Everyone's dream is to get to the Derby, this I understand, but they could easily win some races with this guy and put the money they win from this horse, into some yearlings and develop their Derby horse, instead of potentially ruining this horse.
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03-24-2008, 12:32 AM
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Doesn't that suggest that he has physical issues? If he's in form at the present, don't they have to take their shot now as opposed to a meticulously progressive campaign of turf races that culminates in a facile win in the Secretariat in August? Maybe we can get Ron Burgundy to investigate and shed some light on this.
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03-24-2008, 04:39 AM
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It would be silly to pass up the Santa Anita Fake Dirt Derby with a good turf horse. This one set a relaxed pace last out and finished strong, so he doesn't appear to be the tough to rate type that falter on synthetics.
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03-24-2008, 12:00 AM
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Nonetheless, I think the idea of running in the Santa Anita Derby is a better idea than running in a Grade 3 on the grass...cuz the latter doesn't exist. The allowance is shaky, too, as a 2nd condition is unlikely to fill this time of year. But let's say it does, and further still, let's say he crushes in it like Big Brown did at GP. Guess what? No graded earnings for the Derby! The owners would be so pissed they might let Drillbit take over the training.
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03-24-2008, 12:06 AM
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03-24-2008, 08:44 AM
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03-24-2008, 10:23 AM
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He got a 94 in his final start at age 2, a 98 in the Sham when he was caught 4 wide on both turns on a track where Going Wild rode the live rail the whole way, than he got a 93 in by far the fastest San Felipe stakes ever run, over a super fast track that was carrying speed.
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03-24-2008, 10:42 AM
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03-24-2008, 10:49 AM
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This seaon Giocomo would be a standout! (Scary stuff!)
The point is that in a chaotic season, made more so by the "synthetic factor" it may be worth it to take a shot. The top 3 from the San Felipe were all stretchout sprinters. Col. John is bred to route but has not exactly been a monster. It may not be about making Polonius a KY Derby winner but getting G1 3yo credentials into him. No matter what, the "turf 3yo divisions" may be nice for making money (Va Derby etc) but it's not where you make "credentials" for your 3yo.
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03-23-2008, 11:31 PM
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03-23-2008, 11:32 PM
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I can't blame the connections for trying this. It's painfully obvious that turf horses run very well on this stuff and with how fragile these horses are, you have to take advantage of the opportunities as they present themselves instead of worrying about five months down the line. It doesn't matter if the SA Derby will only be his fifth race or his 30th. What was the Arkansas Derby for Curlin? Seems he turned out ok. The Arkansas Derby was the 6th start for Smarty Jones. He did ok. How many starts did Seattle Slew have going into the TC? Also, it's not like he's giving away a ton of seasoning to the others. How many starts has Colonel John had? El Gato Malo? The SA Derby will be the 6th for CJ and the 5th for EGM.
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03-23-2008, 11:36 PM
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I would enter him in the SA Derby if I had that horse, just based on how well turf horses do on SA synthetic. Decent horses come rarely. Who knows if they'll have this opportunity again? They would regret not trying.
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03-23-2008, 11:43 PM
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03-23-2008, 11:55 PM
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