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Old 03-13-2008, 07:55 PM
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He's an entirely selfabsorbed person who is a great athlete most concerned with triple doubles and being the mvp and the greatest than anything else.

He's a hotdog who won't blink an eye when it comes to telling everyone how great he is ,but will throw up the doggie fence when criticized. If you don't hear what he says and how he says it and don't see him play most everyday then you will be swallowed by the hype machine that blinds from the truth.
I ask you again...how on earth did they get to the finals with such a clown as him last year?? I"ll tell you what I saw last year...in the conference finals this guy was completely eviscerated by the press and the minions spewing on his game 1 and 2 performances in the Palace. They ripped him to shreds for passing to a wide open Marshall in game 1...then ripped him to shreds for missing the shot at the end of game 2. I didn't see a doggie fence. I saw games 3 through 6.
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I ask you again...how on earth did they get to the finals with such a clown as him last year?? I"ll tell you what I saw last year...in the conference finals this guy was completely eviscerated by the press and the minions spewing on his game 1 and 2 performances in the Palace. They ripped him to shreds for passing to a wide open Marshall in game 1...then ripped him to shreds for missing the shot at the end of game 2. I didn't see a doggie fence. I saw games 3 through 6.
I said he is OVERRATED.........and how did a superstar like him get to the finals with a bunch of clowns around him? Such a horrible team.


Ya...so where was Mr. World against San Antonio?

He ,to this day, does not take kindly to ANY kind of crticism.....you don't know what he's about. You think you do...but you don't.
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I said he is OVERRATED.........and how did a superstar like him get to the finals with a bunch of clowns around him? Such a horrible team.


Ya...so where was Mr. World against San Antonio?

He ,to this day, does not take kindly to ANY kind of crticism.....you don't know what he's about. You think you do...but you don't.
I know nothing about James other than what I see on TV. What is he about? The self-absorption argument is ridiculous. All great athletes are...that is why they are great. Tiger isn't?? Jordan wasn't?? Kobe?? Pete rose?? bonds?? Ruth??

I never called them a horrible team. You said he doesn't take kindly to criticism?? Good. I saw him eviscerated in games 1 and 2 in the Palace last year...I'm quite glad he didn't take kindly to it. I saw games 3 thorugh 6.

How many times exactly have you spoken to him?? I am sure he is self absorbed. AS I said most greats are.

LeBron is the reason they lost the finals. He was horrible. They may have won the series if he was on the bench.
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I know nothing about James other than what I see on TV. What is he about? The self-absorption argument is ridiculous. All great athletes are...that is why they are great. Tiger isn't?? Jordan wasn't?? Kobe?? Pete rose?? bonds?? Ruth??

I never called them a horrible team. You said he doesn't take kindly to criticism?? Good. I saw him eviscerated in games 1 and 2 in the Palace last year...I'm quite glad he didn't take kindly to it. I saw games 3 thorugh 6.

How many times exactly have you spoken to him?? I am sure he is self absorbed. AS I said most greats are.

LeBron is the reason they lost the finals. He was horrible. They may have won the series if he was on the bench.

Wel why don't you suck his joint,too?


He's an azzhole.


You can't see it like I can..Livingstone doesn't call him an azzhole 'cause he can't.


What are you bringing up those guys for? What does that have to do with anything?


Yuo can't name any greats who weren't selfabsorbed.....really?
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Well ol' 'Bron beat Detroit all by himself...why can't he lose to San Antonio all by himself?
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Wel why don't you suck his joint,too?


He's an azzhole.


You can't see it like I can..Livingstone doesn't call him an azzhole 'cause he can't.


What are you bringing up those guys for? What does that have to do with anything?


Yuo can't name any greats who weren't selfabsorbed.....really?
HOnestly, no I can't. I am just making rash generalizations. That's what simpletons like me do because we pale in comparison to your superior insight on this matter. It's LIvington by the way...no "e" at the end. He is simply an angry old man!! Tell me what his joint is??
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Just think Avery...only about 17 days until Jhonny steps up to the plate for his first at bat!! I am eagerly awaiting that development!!

My guess is Jhonny is not nearly good enough to be self absorbed. What do you think???
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I am eagerly awaiting the official wording of the massacre you put on me this evening?? Brain shredder or something like that??
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Hank Aaron,Jesse Ownes,Marion Motley,Bill Willis, Archie Griffin,Herb Score,Austin Carr, Bill Russell,the San Antonio forward,Kevin Garnet,Joe Louis,Jose Torres, Floyd Patterson.......that's in the blink of an eye....great athletes who didn't/don't look for adoration.
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No...I'm done with that stuff....I hate people praising James like they do for what they think he is; they're only sheep. If it's deserved ,then fine. Too much of it is not.






Now you see why I hate people.
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Hank Aaron,Jesse Ownes,Marion Motley,Bill Willis, Archie Griffin,Herb Score,Austin Carr, Bill Russell,the San Antonio forward,Kevin Garnet,Joe Louis,Jose Torres, Floyd Patterson.......that's in the blink of an eye....great athletes who didn't/don't look for adoration.
AGain, you don't know any of them personally. I would contend all of these guys had "attitude" of some sort to become as great as they were. And again...most of these guys were 30s, 40s and 50s, 60s, 70s era athletes. Carr and Grriffin as well were not great professional athletes or even close to it. You brought up Garnett and Duncan from today.

NIke was not around to throw billions at Russell or Motley like they did for LeBron and Tiger and many today. It's nice to compare...but the worlds Jesse Owens and LeBron James were superior athletes in is just a hair different. Maybe LeBron hammers Z on the court. I don't think he does...but if you remember LeBron begged management to keep him when his contract was up and Z signed a very nice contract to stay in Cleveland. AFter the conference championship win....I saw Z make a direct bee-line to LeBron after the game and was the first person to greet him. Maybe I am imagining all this stuff from being a witness but I am pretty sure all those things happened with Z after LeBron joined the team. And I guess LeBron only wanted Z back on teh team for selfish reasons?? ONly to help him get his triple doubles I guess?? Or is there only a very remote chance that he thought with Z they may have just a hair better chance to win.

I may be off kilter on this. You give me the lowdown on what really happened here as an insider of the team.

I honestly don't know about how big an azz he is as you claim...all I really care about is on court stuff and it seems to me he greatly helps a team that says Cleveland on their jerseys...that's all I see.
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