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Old 03-08-2008, 07:04 PM
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The bill would have limited the CIA to 19 interrogation techniques that are used by the military and spelled out in the Army Field Manual. Bush said he vetoed the measure because it is important for the CIA to have a separate and classified interrogation program for suspected terrorists who possess critical information about possible plots against the United States.


Bush said he did not veto the bill specifically over waterboarding, a technique that simulates drowning. The Army banned the use of waterboarding or sensory deprivation on uncooperative prisoners in 2006. The CIA, which also prohibited the practice in 2006, has acknowledged using waterboarding on three suspected terrorists in 2003.
"My disagreement ... is not over any particular interrogation technique; for instance, it is not over waterboarding, which is not part of the current CIA program," Bush said in his veto message to the House. The attorney general has deemed that program legal under domestic and international law, he said.

In a memo to CIA employees Saturday, CIA Director Michael Hayden said the Army Field Manual does not "exhaust the universe" of lawful interrogation techniques. "There are methods in the CIA's program that have been briefed to our oversight committees, are fully consistent with the Geneva Convention and current U.S. law and are most certainly not torture," Hayden wrote
Unfortunately, taking the word of the Bush administration seems risky to me...I close my eyes and see all those WMD going poof before the eyes of the world...
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Unfortunately, taking the word of the Bush administration seems risky to me...I close my eyes and see all those WMD going poof before the eyes of the world...
it is.
but so is seeing all the headlines on my home page screaming 'waterboarding bill vetoed'. media does love to stoke hysteria.

i'm looking forward to the end of the bush circus...er, administration.
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Old 03-08-2008, 07:14 PM
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it is.
but so is seeing all the headlines on my home page screaming 'waterboarding bill vetoed'. media does love to stoke hysteria.

i'm looking forward to the end of the bush circus...er, administration.

I think a lot of us are (hopefully a majority)...McCain getting Bush's support may be enough to put the Dems over the top...then again, nothing seems certain in blue vs red America.
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