Bush trying to keep waterboarding

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

Putting what he thinks is best for troops and security ahead of what people at Church may think. I certainly don't have a problem with that.

That's what the Germans and Japanese thought too(when they followed their leaders.)I ain't following this pig.I want to know how he calls himself a Methodist Christian,because he is acting like a dog or a pig(not a Christian.) He is a national disgrace,and will go down as the torture president,and mainly the hypocrite president.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

That's what the Germans and Japanese thought too(when they followed their leaders.)I ain't following this pig.I want to know how he calls himself a Methodist Christian,because he is acting like a dog or a pig(not a Christian.) He is a national disgrace,and will go down as the torture president,and mainly the hypocrite president.

Scuds....
the church used to burn folks at the stake and inflict all manner of torture upon them, unfortunately this is nothing new! I agree with you about Bush however...

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Scuds....
the church used to burn folks at the stake and inflict all manner of torture upon them, unfortunately this is nothing new! I agree with you about Bush however...

Yea,when did the church do it? You say that a lot,but how long ago? Do they do it now? I don't talk about the evil Moslems used to do.I talk about what they are doing presently,and this so called "Christian" is acting like a common dog,and I want to see these born againers etc. be just as outraged about this as they are about other things they find against their religion.They need to be religiously consistent(which is what he is totally not like........this is a hypocrite president.)

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yea,when did the church do it? You say that a lot,but how long ago? Do they do it now? I don't talk about the evil Moslems used to do.I talk about what they are doing presently,and this so called "Christian" is acting like a common dog,and I want to see these born againers etc. be just as outraged about this as they are about other things they find against their religion.They need to be religiously consistent(which is what he is totally not like........this is a hypocrite president.)

Whether the church did it yesterday or a couple centuries ago, my point remains....the teachings of Christ take a back seat when personal gain comes to town. "Christians" like Bush, Falwell and the like are horrified about abortion but support capital punishment and killing folks with zeal...nothing new here and my only point is that GWB is a symptom of the disease, not the disease itself.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

....the teachings of Christ take a back seat ......

This is the point.This is a majority Christian country,but there is more outrage about OLD TESTAMENT stuff than when guys like Bush do things that are in direct opposition to Christ's teachings. There is just a complete lack of concern for things said by CHRIST.For BUSH to do what he has done(a Christian demanding that torture be used) shows you he thinks the majority of Christians will ignore Christ's teachings about this.It's total hypocrisy,and if Christians aren't upset about it,then they are simply hypocrite Christians(same as this dog.)

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

This is the point.This is a majority Christian country,but there is more outrage about OLD TESTAMENT stuff than when guys like Bush do things that are in direct opposition to Christ's teachings. There is just a complete lack of concern for things said by CHRIST.For BUSH to do what he has done(a Christian demanding that torture be used) shows you he thinks the majority of Christians will ignore Christ's teachings about this.It's total hypocrisy,and if Christians aren't upset about it,then they are simply hypocrite Christians(same as this dog.)

I agree...and believe me, there will be no outcry here! I believe in free will and responsibility for one's acts. I believe that I am responsible for everything I have done in my life...good and bad...things I did as a teenager and young man as well as what I did yesterday and what I will do tomorrow; why should the church get a pass just cause they stopped torturing and killing and replaced those things with a philosophy of fear and superiority? Bush is nothing more than a continuation of the hypocracy!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I agree...and believe me, there will be no outcry here! I believe in free will and responsibility for one's acts. I believe that I am responsible for everything I have done in my life...good and bad...things I did as a teenager and young man as well as what I did yesterday and what I will do tomorrow; why should the church get a pass just cause they stopped torturing and killing and replaced those things with a philosophy of fear and superiority? Bush is nothing more than a continuation of the hypocracy!

Well,for one thing,whoever did those acts isn't alive.You are.I don't blame the religion for his support of torture.I blame him for ignoring Christ. I have no use for most all of the Old Testament,anyways.That's why I say I wished they would pay attention to Christ (instead of stuff he didn't even write.) You say the church has a philosophy of fear and superiority? Show me religions that don't.What are they.It ain't the big 3 or 4.Maybe BUDDHISM.This is not a thread about how great (or not) Christianity itself is.It's about hypocrisy.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

This is the point.This is a majority Christian country,but there is more outrage about OLD TESTAMENT stuff than when guys like Bush do things that are in direct opposition to Christ's teachings. There is just a complete lack of concern for things said by CHRIST.For BUSH to do what he has done(a Christian demanding that torture be used) shows you he thinks the majority of Christians will ignore Christ's teachings about this.It's total hypocrisy,and if Christians aren't upset about it,then they are simply hypocrite Christians(same as this dog.)

this country isn't a theocracy, and religion shouldn't have anything to do with it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

this country isn't a theocracy, and religion shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Every national election is impacted hugely by religion.He pandered to religious Conservatives.They are his base.Now he thumbs his nose at Christ's teachings,and quite frankly it's time for his base to call him on it,or they are religious hypocrates (just like he is.) Every time the Conservatives want a good turn out in a state they have a referendum on gay marriage on the ballot.We wouldn't ever have had Bush as the president if religious conservatives weren't dominating blocks of states for him.If religion doesn't matter then why is he against stem cell etc.?