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Old 03-02-2008, 07:51 PM
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I've heard a rumor that the BC is going to have a dustpan giveaway on ladies day.

Any truth to that?
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:03 PM
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I'm looking forward to putting on my best apron, and saving enough S & H grocery coupons to get a special half-priced "Female Friday" admission ticket!

Has anybody else bothered to e-mail the Breeders Cup with their thoughts?
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:04 PM
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I'm looking forward to putting on my best apron, and saving enough S & H grocery coupons to get a special half-priced "Female Friday" admission ticket!

Has anybody else bothered to e-mail the Breeders Cup with their thoughts?
why, we don't matter, they would do it anyways. The only way it would go back to normal is if handle was down 10%, which it might be anyways given it is on a synthetic
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:10 PM
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I'm looking forward to putting on my best apron, and saving enough S & H grocery coupons to get a special half-priced "Female Friday" admission ticket!

Has anybody else bothered to e-mail the Breeders Cup with their thoughts?
Look for special admission coupons on your next box of tampons!
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:49 PM
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The last time the BC tried to market the addition of the 3 new races Steve had a representative from the BC powers to be on the show, who also was from West Point Stables if memory serves.

The gentleman was a fairly stand up guy answering questions about why the changes were made. I was wondering who you were going to get this time Steve to explain why it was necessary to segregate the event to boys and girls and how they saw this as a step forward when the best day in racing has been ruined to be replaced by two mediocre days.

Given that the higher profile owners who are represented on the BC governing body are likely race fans to some extent, is it not obvious how poor a decision this is when they look at the event as players and fans aside from business.

Usually when something in the realm of the world does not make sense it has something to do with money.....but for the life of me I cannot see how this will make them more money as the serious players leave their Dead Presidents
at home rather than wager serious coin on turf sprints and other random events....what am I missing here??
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:05 PM
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I wonder what John Gaines would think of this? Is this what he envisioned? Maybe it was?
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:17 PM
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The last time the BC tried to market the addition of the 3 new races Steve had a representative from the BC powers to be on the show, who also was from West Point Stables if memory serves.

The gentleman was a fairly stand up guy answering questions about why the changes were made. I was wondering who you were going to get this time Steve to explain why it was necessary to segregate the event to boys and girls and how they saw this as a step forward when the best day in racing has been ruined to be replaced by two mediocre days.

Given that the higher profile owners who are represented on the BC governing body are likely race fans to some extent, is it not obvious how poor a decision this is when they look at the event as players and fans aside from business.

Usually when something in the realm of the world does not make sense it has something to do with money.....but for the life of me I cannot see how this will make them more money as the serious players leave their Dead Presidents
at home rather than wager serious coin on turf sprints and other random events....what am I missing here??
This will make them more money in the short term. More races to get sponsors for, control of the venue for another day, higher ticket prices neatly packaged into a weekend event, more handle simply because of more races...
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:02 PM
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This will make them more money in the short term. More races to get sponsors for, control of the venue for another day, higher ticket prices neatly packaged into a weekend event, more handle simply because of more races...

But aside from the weather last year didn't they already have that with the new races.....won't they actually hurt handle by eliminating the toughest P6 in racing and P4's that payed like no other.....they split it up and destroyed the handle
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:13 PM
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Those who don't wager by computer...they'll be forced to come to their track 2 days in a row.

Then once you are there on a day you normally aren't there...you're going to buy food...drinks...parking...and you're going to play races you wouldn't normally play because you're going to get bored waiting for the BC to start, so you'll probably blow half your money on some cheap claiming race...then you realize you'll need money for the BC still so you'll withdraw from the ATM and lose some more....but you still have to see the male division...

So then you're going to come back the next day and spend more money on food, drinks, etc

I see why they do it, even though I don't like it.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:31 PM
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But aside from the weather last year didn't they already have that with the new races.....won't they actually hurt handle by eliminating the toughest P6 in racing and P4's that payed like no other.....they split it up and destroyed the handle
They are adding more new races. Of course in October at SA they don't have to worry about rain. It's fire season in Oct. They comes the monsoon, and then the locusts.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:32 AM
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This will make them more money in the short term. More races to get sponsors for, control of the venue for another day, higher ticket prices neatly packaged into a weekend event, more handle simply because of more races...
I wonder what this will do for TV revenue. The BC has never been a big TV success. Few non-hardcore fans were willing to sit down for 4-5 hours of nonstop horseracing. But stretching the races out over 2 days, while adding races of less interest can only make whatever TV interest there was all but non-existent.

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Old 03-03-2008, 07:04 AM
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I wonder what this will do for TV revenue. The BC has never been a big TV success. Few non-hardcore fans were willing to sit down for 4-5 hours of nonstop horseracing. But stretching the races out over 2 days, while adding races of less interest can only make whatever TV interest there was all but non-existent.

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Though it is just speculation I would guess that ESPN has had a hand in the entire process
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:07 AM
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I wonder what this will do for TV revenue. The BC has never been a big TV success. Few non-hardcore fans were willing to sit down for 4-5 hours of nonstop horseracing. But stretching the races out over 2 days, while adding races of less interest can only make whatever TV interest there was all but non-existent.

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it's less of a success due to moving the coverage to espn, which many still do not have. so they can't watch even if they want to.
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