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Old 03-01-2008, 03:51 PM
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Yes, you are missing the point. I do think Daaher is a good horse. I did think he would crush this field today. I haven't ever said he's not good. I only said that I didn't think he was AS good as the Cigar looked. I only said after the Donn, when our resident Gods were saying that the race was a throwout because Daaher was better than that and that something had to be wrong with him, that maybe the reason he got drubbed there was because of the conditions of the race and not the condition of the horse. What I think today showed was that he's not anywhere close to the same horse when the pace is faster and there is a second-turn, especially against stakes runners, as he is going one-turn on a moderate to soft pace. I had said then NOT to write the race off because Daaher had never done anything under that race's conditions to prove that the Donn was an abberration. If anything, today's race showed me that it wasn't.
CONGRATS!!! for being right about the Donn when the racing gods were wrong.

put on the dunce cap though for thinking Daaher was going to crush them today after the debacle he had in the Donn.

feel better now?
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Old 03-01-2008, 03:56 PM
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CONGRATS!!! for being right about the Donn when the racing gods were wrong.

put on the dunce cap though for thinking Daaher was going to crush them today after the debacle he had in the Donn.

feel better now?
Only if you do.
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Old 03-01-2008, 03:58 PM
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So maybe I wasn't wrong after all.....and you are still a good guy?

What a relief. I was worried.
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:03 PM
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I'm still the outside of the box thinking, radical idea having idiot that doesn't have a clue. Hasn't changed in 21 years of watching these animals and hopefully, won't change in the next 21 years either.
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:11 PM
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I'm still the outside of the box thinking, radical idea having idiot that doesn't have a clue. Hasn't changed in 21 years of watching these animals and hopefully, won't change in the next 21 years either.
yeh really impressive.....
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:04 PM
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will you sleep better now?

i guess now daaher will go back to a one turn mile?
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:10 PM
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will you sleep better now?

i guess now daaher will go back to a one turn mile?
Maybe I'm the one missing the point here because I don't see what yours is. I would have slept the same whether Daaher would have won by 20 and then gone on to break the world record in the Dubai World Cup by 50 or whether he would have lost by 25 today. So, if you don't mind, could you tell me what your point is?
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:14 PM
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To be perfectly honest, I'm not convinced there isn't something wrong with Daaher, as he just isn't the horse we saw even at Saratoga.

Maybe he never was much. I don't know.
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Only Race I Hit All Day 1/3 Everything Else Was A Bust!
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:33 PM
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To be perfectly honest, I'm not convinced there isn't something wrong with Daaher, as he just isn't the horse we saw even at Saratoga.

Maybe he never was much. I don't know.
Funny but after today's race, I'd be more inclined to agree with you. If the two races had been run in a different order, I probably wouldn't have wrote the post that I did about him.

I also am not convinced that he's not the same horse we saw at Saratoga or in the Cigar. If I saw him flop under those same kinds of conditions that he had back then, I would be convinced. But I don't know that if he didn't face Midnight Lute next week with the same scenario that he had last time, that the result wouldn't be the same.
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Maybe I'm the one missing the point here because I don't see what yours is. I would have slept the same whether Daaher would have won by 20 and then gone on to break the world record in the Dubai World Cup by 50 or whether he would have lost by 25 today. So, if you don't mind, could you tell me what your point is?
i was replying to btw's post where he had said 'what a relief. i was worried'.

his was the last post, i suppose you posted BEFORE my reply was thru. i'll quote the person i'm replying to next time. sheesh.
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Old 03-01-2008, 07:31 PM
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i was replying to btw's post where he had said 'what a relief. i was worried'.

his was the last post, i suppose you posted BEFORE my reply was thru. i'll quote the person i'm replying to next time. sheesh.
Oh. I'm sorry.
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