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Old 08-01-2006, 03:11 PM
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Green Monkey will be the first BCJ and KY Derby winner in history, the best horse I have seen in all my years
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Old 08-01-2006, 03:13 PM
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Green Monkey will be the first BCJ and KY Derby winner in history, the best horse I have seen in all my years
I don't think he will be a 10F horse. I bet he wins the BCJ and maybe something like the Met Mile at age 3.
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Old 08-01-2006, 03:14 PM
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I don't think he will be a 10F horse. I bet he wins the BCJ and maybe something like the Met Mile at age 3.
From the gossip I hear he may not exactly fulfill those expectations!!! To say the least!!
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Old 08-01-2006, 03:16 PM
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From the gossip I hear he may not exactly fulfill those expectations!!! To say the least!!

my inside sources tell me otherwise, they havent seen a horse like him ever since Empire Maker before his run at Belmont
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Old 08-01-2006, 03:17 PM
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From the gossip I hear he may not exactly fulfill those expectations!!! To say the least!!
Good. I would love to see him never break his maiden, but I doubt that is going to happen. $16M for an unproven horse is insanity.
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Old 08-01-2006, 04:09 PM
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Good. I would love to see him never break his maiden, but I doubt that is going to happen. $16M for an unproven horse is insanity.
That's harsh. Its not the horse's fault he went for 16 million. I feel bad for the horse. He's going to be like the Arod of horse racing. All that money and it won't amount to much in the clutch. The Yankees will never ever win a championship with Arod on the team. Never.
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Old 08-01-2006, 04:11 PM
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That's harsh. Its not the horse's fault he went for 16 million. I feel bad for the horse. He's going to be like the Arod of horse racing. All that money and it won't amount to much in the clutch. The Yankees will never ever win a championship with Arod on the team. Never.
No but the two groups of owners bidding on him were annoying. Almost as annoying as Steinbrenner.

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Old 08-01-2006, 07:27 PM
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That's harsh. Its not the horse's fault he went for 16 million. I feel bad for the horse. He's going to be like the Arod of horse racing. All that money and it won't amount to much in the clutch. The Yankees will never ever win a championship with Arod on the team. Never.
Yep, he has to win the BJ Juvenile/Florida Derby/KY Derby/Travers/BC Classic to be a success, sad.
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Old 08-01-2006, 04:08 PM
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From the gossip I hear he may not exactly fulfill those expectations!!! To say the least!!
Oracle, I have heard the same when he was at Louisville. I also heard some grumplings about soundness. The barn guy at Churchill said he didnt think he would win a Grade I. But I also heard that he is the real deal. I am anxious to see a work.
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:40 AM
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From the gossip I hear he may not exactly fulfill those expectations!!! To say the least!!
A macho bidding war product does not translate to wins on the track. Even though I like Pletcher, I gotta hope he flops to stop the insanity.
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Old 08-01-2006, 06:51 PM
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I don't think he will be a 10F horse. I bet he wins the BCJ and maybe something like the Met Mile at age 3.

That was said with a touch of sarcasm, right? Otherwise, I'll take that bet!
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Old 08-01-2006, 07:29 PM
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That was said with a touch of sarcasm, right? Otherwise, I'll take that bet!
Yes. It was a response to seattle who was trying to be funny.
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Old 08-01-2006, 07:45 PM
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lucky for the horse that he has no idea the expectations he has to try to live up to.

if he's a success, no one will give credit--he's supposed to be one, not due to anything HE's done. but if he's anything short of a multiple gr 1 winning, record shattering, colossus at stud, he'll be judged a failure.

do you all know that ap indy was the first high price horse bought at auction who actually won back his purchase price on the track??

the green monkey has one on his back.
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Old 08-01-2006, 07:50 PM
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he had a breathtaking work at the sale. i saw it on the net and it was awsome. i give him credit for that.
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Old 08-01-2006, 08:09 PM
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All I heard from folks I know is that he is a real looker, who has not yet been tested at any distance. A good 1f doesn't even mean he'll be very good at 6f. They said he could be anything from nothing to great, but Pletcher was definitely feeling th epressure to prove the owners right.
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:52 AM
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he had a breathtaking work at the sale. i saw it on the net and it was awsome. i give him credit for that.
His work was phenomenal, but I have seen a few colts that I like better than him...an Orientate, a Red Bullet, a Touch Gold, and an Indian Charlie. I will be very surprised if The Green Monkey lives up to his expectations though as they are probably almost impossible to achieve by any horse. I think he will be a great sprinter/miler, but he is probably not a route-type horse IMO.
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Old 08-01-2006, 04:14 PM
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Green Monkey will be the first BCJ and KY Derby winner in history, the best horse I have seen in all my years
Nice one Seattle...
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