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Old 02-25-2008, 05:27 PM
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In no particular order and I'm sure I'll be leaving someone out.

Alysheba
Winning Colors
Risen Star
Sunday Silence
Easy Goer
Holy Bull
Thunder Gulch
Mecke
Silver Charm
Lemon Drop Kid
War Emblem
Smarty Jones
Afleet Alex
Street Sense
Curlin


These are just a few I would consider to be very good 3 year olds.

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Old 02-25-2008, 05:36 PM
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I might be forgetting someone, but here is my list of 25 in the order I thought of them. It isn't exactly ranked 1-25, but my top picks are near the top of the list.

Sunday Silence
Easy Goer
Go for Wand
Holy Bull
Risen Star
Alysheba
Barbaro
Point Given
AP Indy
Thunder Gulch
Unbridled
Curlin
Smarty Jones
Silver Charm
Tiznow
Afleet Alex
Housebuster
Bet Twice
Winning Colors
Victory Gallop
Tabasco Cat
Touch Gold
Real Quiet
Bernardini
Empire Maker
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:18 PM
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I might be forgetting someone, but here is my list of 25 in the order I thought of them. It isn't exactly ranked 1-25, but my top picks are near the top of the list.

Sunday Silence
Easy Goer
Go for Wand
Holy Bull
Risen Star
Alysheba
Barbaro
Point Given
AP Indy
Thunder Gulch
Unbridled
Curlin
Smarty Jones
Silver Charm
Tiznow
Afleet Alex
Housebuster
Bet Twice
Winning Colors
Victory Gallop
Tabasco Cat
Touch Gold
Real Quiet
Bernardini
Empire Maker
Interesting that you have Real Quiet and Victory Gallop but no Coronado's Quest.
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:22 PM
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Interesting that you have Real Quiet and Victory Gallop but no Coronado's Quest.
That's true....I forgot about him.
He bested VG in the late summer/early fall so you could certainly make a case for him.
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:25 PM
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kentuckyrosesinmay,
LITF > Thunder Gulch?
You'll have to explain that one to me, but other than that, your list looks fairly reasonable. I didn't include international horses simply because I don't feel qualified to compare horses like Deep Impact and Ouija Board with U.S dirt horses.
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:37 PM
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kentuckyrosesinmay,
LITF > Thunder Gulch?
You'll have to explain that one to me, but other than that, your list looks fairly reasonable. I didn't include international horses simply because I don't feel qualified to compare horses like Deep Impact and Ouija Board with U.S dirt horses.
I forgot about Thunder Gulch. Should have put him in there somewhere, and knocked someone else out.

As for the international horses, I just put them in there because they were brillant in their respected divisions as three-year-olds (and they were a few of my favs on top of it all). Besides, it is just for fun anyway.
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Old 02-25-2008, 07:14 PM
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Only considering U.S. dirt horses and in no order:

Alysheba
Risen Star
Sunday Silence
AP Indy
Holy Bull
Thunder Gulch
Point Given
Smarty Jones
Bernardini
Curlin
Lion Heart
Fusaichi Pegasus
Easy Goer
Winning Colors
Forty Niner
Seeking the Gold
Bet Twice
Java Gold
King Glorious
Touch Gold
Dinard
Serena's Song
Go for Wand
Lost Code
Coronado's Quest

Most notable absences are Tiznow, Silver Charm, and Real Quiet. I have always felt that Silver Charm was just a little overrated. Very good horse but I felt he was a lucky winner of the Preakness and it should have been Touch Gold that was the dual-classic winner that year and if that would have been the case, I think SC would be left off a lot more people's lists. If Silver Charm goes on, you almost have to put Free House and Captain Bodgit on too. I sort of feel like in 1997 and 1998, they had several really good horses but that they were very much like 2007 in that they were good and very competitive but no real superstars and so I only took the one I thought was the best one from each of these three years. Real Quiet got really good for the TC but those were his only two wins of the year and really, if you want to put him on there, Coronado's Quest also has to be on there since he beat Victory Gallop twice too (Haskell and Travers) in addition to wins in the Wood, Dwyer, and to show he could sprint too, the Riva Ridge. Tiznow just doesn't make it for me. He ran a great race to win the BC but that was over a grass horse. The rest of his campaign doesn't put him on the list for me.

I think the three that most will question on my lists are King Glorious, Dinard, and Lion Heart. I admit that Lion Heart is a stretch. I just thought he was more naturally talented than many people give him credit for. I wish he hadn't broken his leg in the Travers. I thought for sure with the way that race was unfolding that he was going to win it then not as many people would be questioning me putting him on here. Many people don't remember Dinard but he was better than Best Pal. He had beaten Best Pal in the San Rafael and the SA Derby and would have been the favorite for the 1991 Kentucky Derby but an injury took him out. Best Pal ended up a very close second that year. He also beat Olympio in that SA Derby and Olympio won the Arkansas Derby and the Malibu that year. King Glorious was just the best horse that's run in the past 20 years so I don't need to make his case for him.

One horse that was a tougher choice for me than probably for most was Risen Star. Just how good was he? I know a lot of people thought that he could have won the Derby with a better trip but on the flip side, was he really the best horse in the Preakness when he got a perfect trip? The Belmont was a tour de force for him but that's often a race where only one horse is ready to run and it's often a runaway and not indicative of the actual talent levels of the horses. EG was not really eight lengths better than SS. Bet Twice is not over 15 lengths better than Alysheba. It's a good thing Risen Star beat Forty Niner in the Lexington or else I'm not sure he makes it.
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Old 02-25-2008, 07:21 PM
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Lion Heart?
He only won two races his 3yo season and the second place finisher in each of those races was My Snookie's Boy.
To each his own I suppose, but putting him in over Silver Charm sure seems like a stretch to me.
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:53 PM
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Many people don't remember Dinard but he was better than Best Pal. He had beaten Best Pal in the San Rafael and the SA Derby and would have been the favorite for the 1991 Kentucky Derby but an injury took him out. Best Pal ended up a very close second that year. He also beat Olympio in that SA Derby and Olympio won the Arkansas Derby and the Malibu that year.
Dinard didn't beat Olympio in the Santa Anita Derby, cuz Olympio wasn't in that race. Dinard did beat Olympio as a 3yo by a mere nose in the since defunct Los Feliz, a restricted one mile stakes run early in the SA winter meet.

Dinard bested an off the bench Best Pal twice leading up to the Derby (in two slowly rated races), but his season was cut short by injury. He returned the following winter at SA to get lit up by Olympio in the Malibu (by 9 lengths or so) and followed that up with a drubbing at the hands of Best Pal (in career form at the time) in the Strub Stakes.

Both Dinard and Olympio never ran again after the Strub. Best Pal ran for about 10 more years.
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Old 02-25-2008, 05:55 PM
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In no particular order and I'm sure I'll be leaving someone out.

Alysheba
Winning Colors
Risen Star
Sunday Silence
Easy Goer
Holy Bull
Thunder Gulch
Mecke
Silver Charm
Lemon Drop Kid
War Emblem
Smarty Jones
Afleet Alex
Street Sense
Curlin


These are just a few I would consider to be very good 3 year olds.


Removed Tepid.
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:02 PM
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No need to. It was your opinion, I was just curious why you thought that.
In all honesty, I hated his Derby performance and I thought I was going to get my balls busted over him. But now I think it's going to be my choice of Mecke that will fill that void.
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:04 PM
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No particular order

Deep Impact
George Washington
Miesque
Curlin
Afleet Alex
Lost in the Fog
Barbaro
Rock of Gibralter
Point Given
Smarty Jones
Bernardini
Silver Charm
Unbridled
Sunday Silence
Easy Goer
Holy Bull
Ouija Board
Lammtarra
Alysheba
Risen Star
Winning Colors
Rags to Riches
AP Indy
Go For Wand
High Chaparral
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Best Euro 3yos.

Dalakhani
Sinndar
Rock of Gibraltar
High Chapparal
Peintre Celebre
Dubai Millennium
Russian Rhythm
Ouija Board
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Best Euro 3yos.

Dalakhani
Sinndar
Rock of Gibraltar
High Chapparal
Peintre Celebre
Dubai Millennium
Russian Rhythm
Ouija Board

What about Giants Causeway and Galileo?
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nashwan was a pretty useful 3yo.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:27 PM
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... and Shergar. (Though he is a little outside the time frame.)

Was Dubai Millenium's three-year-old season great? He got on this roll as a four-year-old.
For the Dubai Millenium lovers

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Td5YxLIaxqs
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:52 PM
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Dubai Millennium Won 2 G1s and a G2 at 3.

And absolutely cruised home in all.

Thanks for that video link. I will never forget what he did to Sendawar.

Europes Champion Miler, couldnt lay a glove on him.

Who remembers that Sendawar went off the favorite?
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:23 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpM9F5w30g

This is what the great ones look like when they are asked to run.

Has to be on that list.
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Sounds like a big leap to blame Belmont for spraying something. Coincidence? Yes.

How's the lawsuit going? I assume there is one.
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bernardini and barbaro were both very special
barbaro obvious tragedy
and bernardini loss to invasor only came back to flatter him, with what invasor did afterwards.
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