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02-12-2008, 12:33 PM
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A lot of people prefer not to ship and Mrs. Valando might be happier winning a Grade 1 on the Belmont Stakes undercard than the Hollywood Gold Cup.
I might be wrong, but I think other than accomplishing something unusual, NoBiz has already kind of established his market value. A win in either race you are discussing isn't going to change that. He would have to win races like the Whitney, Woodward, Jockey Club Gold Cup and, maybe, the BC Polytrack Classic, to seriously change that. And even then I don't know how sexy he will ever be. 
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02-12-2008, 12:35 PM
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02-12-2008, 12:39 PM
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Seeking out what's in the best interests of the horse, which may or may not be shipping back and forth across the country, also comes into play. However, I would bet my last dollar that the owner of NoBiz couldn't possibly care less about winning a " big " race in California. Trainers don't usually like to switch back and forth between surfaces, and when it is someone like Shug saying this, and not lessers, I tend to take it at face value. Barcley Tagg runs his horses, and wants to win, and I think in this case it's pretty fair to trust his judgement. I'm reasonably sure he hasn't ruled out running NoBiz on the dirt again. He's no fool.....he knows who's out there.
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02-12-2008, 12:55 PM
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I agree with you that shipping back and forth across the country is probably not a good thing and for most horses, switching back and forth between surfaces probably isn't going to work either. Lava Man was one that it worked for. I believe that there are surely some others that could do it if given the opportunity. Barbaro is another recent example. I think that most trainers just tend to play it safe and stick with what's proven to work and there's nothing wrong with that. Getting back to Nobiz, I am reminded that I read that when he was running on dirt, he did run down pretty bad. If that's still an issue, then I could see shelving any plans to return to the dirt. But if it's at all possible, then I agree that Tagg almost HAS to consider it based on what's out there.
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02-19-2008, 06:10 PM
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No dirt in Nobiz's future according to Tagg in a DRF article.....
" Nobiz Like Shobiz had a strong season on turf following the Kentucky Derby, and will remain on grass this year. "I'd like to win a couple of Grade 1's on turf with him," he said. "That would enhance his stud value. He's already a Grade 1 winner on dirt. I think he's best suited to a mile or a mile and a sixteenth."
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02-19-2008, 06:23 PM
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02-12-2008, 12:46 PM
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This is one gorgeous horse but you are right his pedigree isn't fashionable and when he stands he won't have a atypical fantastic book of mares. If he makes it it will be because he EARNED IT as a stallion. I will say he is a nice as looking horse as you will find.
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