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Old 07-31-2006, 09:48 AM
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Its extremely unfair to categorize this move as typical Yankee spending. They were not very active in the free agent market before this season began and only had to pull the trigger on this trade because two stars have been injured for almost the whole year. Many fans(myself being one) thought when Sheffield went down after Matsui already had that our season was over with. Lets face it, the Yankees have been winning with guys named Cairo, Guiles, Cabrera, Phillips,a past his prime Williams, and Crosby. This is the best "team" that they have fielded in years. Arod has been a disaster and not contributing either.
The guts that these replacemnt players are showing has been great. And Wang and Mussina are as deserving of CY Yound consideration as anyone.
The Yankees would never have made this trade if they were 5 games out of contention, they'd simply take the lumps. But when you trail Boston by 1/2 game as August comes with the players you have been filling holes with, you simply have to get another hitting outfielder in case either Sheff or Matsui doesnt come back in time to matter or not 100%. Its going to be tough to stop the Yankees now with Abreu and Cano definitely coming back. Now there is no pressure on either Matsui or Sheffield to return before they are 100% and when they do return can gear up towards being ready for postseason play, and believe me, the Yankees will have postseason play.
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Old 07-31-2006, 09:57 AM
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You think ARod can't handle the pressure, wait until Abreu gets to town. His post all-star break collapse last year was a beauty, this year he's been mediocre at best...I don't think this will help the Yanks one bit.

All I get here is the Phillies and I love to root against them.....I'm sad Abreu is gone, him and Burrell are fun to watch suck.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:20 AM
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You think ARod can't handle the pressure, wait until Abreu gets to town. His post all-star break collapse last year was a beauty, this year he's been mediocre at best...I don't think this will help the Yanks one bit.

All I get here is the Phillies and I love to root against them.....I'm sad Abreu is gone, him and Burrell are fun to watch suck.
Well Doc, I'm sure that doesn't win you too many friends in Harrisburg
that is a good point Orc about the Yanks being w/o two of their stars
but, I'd just have to say take away both of their salaries, and they still
have the highest payroll in baseball~P.S. who told you first about Mr. Phillips?
I'm not a Yankee hater, but I'm not happy about this trade
and Crown makes a good point as well in saying the Phils got nothing
the Yankees can afford making trades that don't pan out
"Jay Buhner!"
but the Phillies can't, should have got a MLB-ready player(s) for
what they gave away
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:29 AM
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You think ARod can't handle the pressure, wait until Abreu gets to town. His post all-star break collapse last year was a beauty, this year he's been mediocre at best...I don't think this will help the Yanks one bit.

All I get here is the Phillies and I love to root against them.....I'm sad Abreu is gone, him and Burrell are fun to watch suck.
Abreu hasn't been mediocre this year. He's ranked 5th in on-base percentage. Its just his power thats been declining.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:33 AM
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Abreu hasn't been mediocre this year. He's ranked 5th in on-base percentage. Its just his power thats been declining.
That's a nice stat and all, if you're leading off, where he is in the lineup you need to look at % with runners on scoring position, and RBIs...we can agree to disagree, but I don't recall him in the all-star game this year.
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Old 07-31-2006, 11:05 AM
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Ok - so not being in the all-star game makes you mediocre. Wow and #1 and #2 hitters above .400 in OBP equals 1 (Derek Jeter - with Ichiro Suzuki at .399). Oh yes Ichiro batted in that nice #3 spot quite often - Production? 61 Runs and 65 Rbis at this time must not be good enough. As I look above his name, the other names are nothing to sneeze about.

What worries me with Abreu gone, what will happen to Ryan Howard's or Burrell's production? who goes in the 3 hole? Burrell or Howard?
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Old 07-31-2006, 11:11 AM
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No, not at all, my good friend is a Phils fan....and I looked it up and Abreu is batting .320 with runners in scoring position, which is pretty damn good. I guess I hear from him all the time that Abreu's hits come when they're not needed....when they're up or down big.

All I'm saying, NY isn't going to be any easier to play in than Philly....I rank them 1-2 as far as tough fans.
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Old 07-31-2006, 11:24 AM
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Abreu should be use to it then. LOL!
For this deal to happen, Philly sure needed to shed the money, and Sheffield must be worst off than what we are led to believe.

But Abreu is definitely good for use in the #3, #5, or #6 spot.

Still the Yanks need pitching
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